Heh, I like those.

I wasn't a particular fan of Shoot 'Em Up though, how the hell did they have the audacity to sneak in anti-gun themes to a shoot em up movie? That just pissed me off.

Claiming the second ammendment keeps our right to go deer-hunting with an Uzi is BS, hunting laws don't allow the use of an Uzi (and if they did, they'd only allow an all so useful five rounds).

Most of Hertz's quotes in the movie though were more on the gun enthusiast's side.

Well Clive Owen's character was supposed to be a Brit, maybe it's telling us that Brits just hates how we can have guns and they can't anymore

They can have guns, just nothing fun. No semi-autos, or handguns I believe. I hear they can convert semi-autos into manual operated guns by removing the gas blocks.

A little late but...
http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/u...g?t=1245136534

If you're taking anything in that movie even a bit seriously, you're doing it wrong.

It's never too late to make fun of HK (Heckler & Koch, not Hunter Killers :p).

I made all four of these.

To quote Borat (but keep in mind I'm not anti-semetic):
http://i39.tinypic.com/2zejdw4.jpg

I stole the pistols for pandas image and made it into something funny:
http://i43.tinypic.com/11ry9n6.jpg

We all know its true:
http://i40.tinypic.com/illzqd.jpg

Gotta love that Busey!:
http://i42.tinypic.com/2nqs32w.jpg

Gary Busey FTW!!! That guy is bat shit crazy-awsome!

Although I really got a kick of of this one:

For some reason I imagine an army of mutant Stewie Griffons to come charging over the hill after they destroy all those guns.

http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Fa...ant_Stewie.jpg
"Victory is ours!"

"Get the guns they're our only hope! ...wait, shit..."

I remember that episode, serves those idiots right. :)

How bout this guy?

http://www.imfdb.org/forum/attachmen...2&d=1245529366

Same here.
*Though in Maryland the limit is 8 rounds for hunting.

Another personally made one. You'd think it was common sense to not throw your SKS into the air when it is fitted with a real bayonet:

http://i40.tinypic.com/n3935v.jpg

There not sharpened, the drill team in basic used garands with bayonets.

And they threw them 10 ft in the air? A rifle weighing 8-10 lbs (the average for both the SKS and the Garand) fitted with a bayonet, even a dull one, is lethal when falling back down from that height.

not ten feet, above there heads though. Its 9.8 lbs. They do a thing where they twist it overhead and catch it. This pic here looks very bad if you didnt see the drill yprself to know whats going on....

Well I know the Garand is ~ 9.5lbs, but I was averaging with both the SKS and the Garand.

Thank you for correcting me on the matter, but you killed the joke... :( :D

The first time I held a garand, I almost dropped it because I wasn't expecting the weight. Before that, I've held modern assault rifles and got used to the weight.

I expected it to be heavy because nothing with that much wood and metal is featherlight.

Then add a little lead to the barrel to make it inoperabl;e and a bayonet and a sling. Well over 10 lbs. Its 9.8 without sling and bayo.

In Soviet Russsia,
bayonet stabs YOU!

I was originally going to use THAT as the label, but those jokes are supposed to oppose what can actually happen and... you can't stab a bayonet. And in reality, a bayonet does stab you, Russia or not. So I didn't use that.

Wow, that guy must have no common sense at all. Nice bunch of AKMs and FN FALs though.

As MPM put it on the Ultra Violet page, these guys are an efficient "Polish firing squad".

The unfortunant thing about that statement is that I know a Polish Reservist and while he is a very smart man he has to deal with outdated soviet era equipment and training. Give them modern equipment and training and they are as good a troop as any Western millitary force.

Well a "Polish firing squad" means when everyone stands way to close to a target while surrounding them and potentially puts themselves in danger of CQC attacks.

It wouldn't detonate from that close up, there is a safety device on most anti-tank weapons & 40mm grenades that prevents detonation unless the projectile has been in flight for a certain amount of time.

It would probably still kill the hostage though.

I thought only the 40mm grenades had this safety. The safety on the 40mm grenade is shut off after the round spins a certain amount of times.

A rocket just flies until it hits a solid and the shape charge activates. So I don't know about the 70mm rocket not going boom right there on everyone.

Well I've never seen a demo of it, but a rocket the moment it is launched however the distant, it'll explode the moment it hits something solid.

I suppose in theory you could link an RPG's arming to the main motor igniting since they already use a delay for that. I'm not certain if any actually do that, mind, and obviously that wouldn't work for weapons like the LAW that ignite their motor inside the tube.

http://www.d-n-i.net/fcs/iraq_and_the_RPG-7.htm

Niiiiice. Would a training house ("Killing House") be like Barbie's dream house?

It would if Ken got back before GI Joe "finished his business"... :p

I want to get my hands on a DSA Stg-58 OSW SOPMOD insted of an M-4. there is something to be said about putting the largest hole possible in a target.

That gun looks really heavy though. And reloading and ergonomics are better on the M4-series than the DSA 58 FN FAL carbine.

I've held a DSA, it is a bit heavy on you after awhile

I remember I held an FN FAL once in a gun shop ("Gun Depot"), and while I didn't know what it was at the time, I remember it was pretty heavy. I thought it was some type of LMG. Granted, I was probably 11-12 years old, I still remember it was a hefty piece. Since the DSA is a smaller carbine version, I'd assume it'd be lighter, but with all those rails and accessories, as well as a fully loaded 30-round magazine, I can image the gun might be pretty heavy.

Personally I have a friend who has been accused of being a mercenary(From what I know about that time in his life he was a Mercenary I Name Only). He has used various weapons in Oman and Yemen and he will to this day reach for a beat up FAL before he touches a New M-16. As far as weight goes there are times when you want to travel as light as posible and there are times when you have to strap a Ma Duce to your ruck and F.I.D.O. I've known people in both situations and I prefer to travel too heavily armed than too lightly.

Huh, what war-crazed urge would tempt someone to carry a 120lb Browning M2 around, I wonder... ;)

I'd rather go in favor of carrying a lighter rifle with lots of ammuntion. Like say I was serving in WWII. I'd probably pick the M1 Carbine over the M1 Garand, because it is lighter and holds more bullets. While most men only carried 4 or 5 magazines in total, I'd stuff as many to my belt as possible. And only two 7 round magazines for the .45? No way.

The fact the FN FAL Carbine and the ammunition it fires are very heavy, from a tactical value that doesn't impress me much. Sure the heavy weight reduces the recoil, and the 7.62 rounds can punch some good holes, but if you can't haul ass under fire because your being weighed down by tons of metal, it won't matter what weapon you carry, you'll just make a good corpse.

[quote=Gunmaster45;4478]Huh, what war-crazed urge would tempt someone to carry a 120lb Browning M2 around, I wonder... ;)
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In the case of a friend who has carried an M-2 SAS style. His unit had to transport the thing cross country for I forget how many miles and My friend is 6'4" and built like a packmule. At the time he didn't mind carrying that much weight but he has bitched about having to manpack a TOW launcher.

as far as weight goes the Bren gun is effectivly a 20 pound rifle but there is a very good reason it lasted from WWII to the Falklands. Compaired to that a FAL is lightweight and manuverable.