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MT2008 05-04-2011 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 28556)
Like I said, do you think he's above just taking someone's kidneys?

Nope, just forgot to address this point earlier.

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Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 28559)
Do you think the president is squandering the political capital he got with OBL's death by refusing to show photos? His reasoning seems to be a bit off. We got photos of the Hussein brothers, after all. And as for gloating, we've spent billions of dollars and almost a decade looking for this guy, I think we're entitled to a little gloating.

Agreed. That being said, I don't mind waiting just a little while, given that Bin Laden (unlike anyone in the Hussein family) is a hero to millions of Muslims.

Also, there is already too much media fanfare surrounding JSOC commander William McRaven. Time just put out an article calling him, "The Man Who Got bin Laden", which is slightly inaccurate (he deployed the team, wasn't leading the team or pulling the trigger), but is sure to make McRaven into a high-priority target for the jihadis.

funkychinaman 05-04-2011 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MT2008 (Post 28561)
Agreed. That being said, I don't mind waiting just a little while, given that Bin Laden (unlike anyone in the Hussein family) is a hero to millions of Muslims.

Millions of Muslims who hate us anyway. And those Muslims don't vote. Then again, if he's going to wait to release them, he might as well wait until October 2012.

MT2008 05-05-2011 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 28563)
Millions of Muslims who hate us anyway. And those Muslims don't vote. Then again, if he's going to wait to release them, he might as well wait until October 2012.

Oh, I don't care about sensitive to them. Muslims have shown themselves to be hypocrites on the "sensitivity"/"tolerance" issues so many times that I don't have much sympathy. But if there's potential for greater backlash than we already can expect, maybe it's best to wait it out just a little bit.

Spartan198 05-05-2011 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MT2008 (Post 28561)
(he deployed the team, wasn't leading the team or pulling the trigger)

I doubt we'll ever know his name considering the secrecy surrounding Team 6.

funkychinaman 05-05-2011 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 28588)
I doubt we'll ever know his name considering the secrecy surrounding Team 6.

I don't think he'd want his name to be known either.

Spartan198 05-05-2011 05:48 PM

Well, they are called "silent professionals" for a reason.

funkychinaman 05-05-2011 07:01 PM

Okay article, but I thought the picture was hilarious.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/05/05/...n-raid/?hpt=T1

k9870 05-05-2011 08:48 PM

Im wondering how/when bin laden photo will get out (apparently nobody in CONGRESS has even seen a real photo. It is:

A. Going to be released october 2012 while obamas tring to get cred for election
B. Released through freedom of inormation act over the courese of ears due to the legal battles and appeals, but in the end there is no legal reason to withold.
C. Leaked, source will send it out.
D. Never.

predator20 05-05-2011 08:58 PM

C: leaked.

Spartan198 05-06-2011 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 28598)
Okay article, but I thought the picture was hilarious.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/05/05/...n-raid/?hpt=T1

I just love how the comments degraded into a "dogs vs. cats" argument.

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Originally Posted by predator20 (Post 28607)
C: leaked.

More than likely. For once I'm actually hoping this bit of classified info finds its way into Wikileaks' possession...

Spartan198 05-06-2011 02:48 PM

Found another good shot of the tail section of the mystery helicopter if anyone is interested.

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/1422/800xmt.jpg

MT2008 05-06-2011 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 28651)
Found another good shot of the tail section of the mystery helicopter if anyone is interested.

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/1422/800xmt.jpg

It's going to be really interesting to find out what that thing was. And what other types of equipment were used by the SEAL team during the raid.

Spartan198 05-06-2011 07:28 PM

Yeah, it's looking like these "Stealth Hawk" rumors just might prove true.

k9870 05-06-2011 10:38 PM

apparently theres a hezbolla camp right over the mexico border bout an hour from the u.s. And nothings being done.....maybe the seals will go south.

S&Wshooter 05-06-2011 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 28668)
apparently theres a hezbolla camp right over the mexico border bout an hour from the u.s. And nothings being done.....maybe the seals will go south.

Hopefully they run afoul of some cartel thugs or rednecks and get ventilated

k9870 05-06-2011 11:08 PM

there working with the cartels.

S&Wshooter 05-06-2011 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 28670)
there working with the cartels.

There is more than one crime family in Mexico

k9870 05-06-2011 11:28 PM

yeah but there more geographical, there not like 6 in one city.

S&Wshooter 05-06-2011 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 28672)
yeah but there more geographical, there not like 6 in one city.

They have been know to kill people connected to their rivals, sometimes even going as far as killing the rival cartel head's favorite Narcocorrido balladeer

mjp28 05-07-2011 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 28661)
Yeah, it's looking like these "Stealth Hawk" rumors just might prove true.

An "oh crap" moment.

About the only thing that went wrong. I wonder what our Chinese "friends" will bid for that on ebay?:rolleyes:

Spartan198 05-07-2011 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mjp28 (Post 28677)
About the only thing that went wrong. I wonder what our Chinese "friends" will bid for that on ebay?:rolleyes:

Their only aircraft carrier? :D

funkychinaman 05-07-2011 04:55 AM

Maybe they can modify their own Blackhawks. You know, the ones we sold them. I can't believe we sold both the PRC and the ROC the same military equipment. http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/helicopter/s70.asp

(BTW, I'm loving their euphemism for the Tiananmen Square Massacre as simply "the 1989 incident.")

MT2008 05-07-2011 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 28687)
Maybe they can modify their own Blackhawks. You know, the ones we sold them. I can't believe we sold both the PRC and the ROC the same military equipment. http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/helicopter/s70.asp

(BTW, I'm loving their euphemism for the Tiananmen Square Massacre as simply "the 1989 incident.")

Yeah, it was a dumb idea in retrospect to sell China those Black Hawks (though notice that it was the Reagan administration that did it). Back in those days, though, everybody still believed that economic prosperity led to democracy and expected China to become a democratic country eventually, instead of the model for "free market authoritarianism" that it has become today.

Also, while it was a mistake to establish military cooperation ties with China in the 80s, at least we're not like the Israelis - who are STILL one of China's biggest arms suppliers to this day (even though they know how much it pisses us off). I think it's one of the most reprehensible partnerships in which the Israelis have ever been involved (second only to apartheid South Africa).

Evil Tim 05-07-2011 01:31 PM

Let's be fair, if you're surrounded by people who would dearly love for you to all die horribly, anyone's money probably looks like good money.

BurtReynoldsMoustache 05-07-2011 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Tim (Post 28714)
Let's be fair, if you're surrounded by people who would dearly love for you to all die horribly, anyone's money probably looks like good money.

Let's be really fair, Israel is stolen land and relies on the support of other countries to exist. Israel is the one skinhead neo-nazi in an all black ghetto, waving his confederate flag and screaming "white power" while scratching his bald head in confusion as to why all those dirty coloreds can't just leave him alone and let him burn crosses on all their lawns in peace.

Swordfish941 05-07-2011 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BurtReynoldsMoustache (Post 28731)
Let's be really fair, Israel is stolen land. Israel is the one skinhead neo-nazi in an all black ghetto, waving his confederate flag and screaming "white power" while scratching his bald head in confusion as to why all those dirty coloreds can't just leave him alone and let him burn crosses on all their lawns in peace.

http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/STFU_NOOB.jpg

k9870 05-07-2011 05:53 PM

Israel is badass. Radicals want nothing more than to wipe them off the face of the earth, and 4 wars later there still standing.

BurtReynoldsMoustache 05-07-2011 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Swordfish941 (Post 28732)

If you're open to learning something new, I'll gladly educate you about the history of Israel, but I won't bother if you're just going to write me off as an anti-Semite conspiracy theorist.

BurtReynoldsMoustache 05-07-2011 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 28733)
Israel is badass. Radicals want nothing more than to wipe them off the face of the earth, and 4 wars later there still standing.

There are plenty of rational people who think Israel shouldn't exist either. Some of them are even Jews.

k9870 05-07-2011 06:08 PM

well there is plenty of rational people who dont believe america should exists but the can go perform an impossible sexual act to themselves as well.

Look at the countries surrounding israel. They are totalitarian regimes. Look at israel. The are a prosperous democracy.

Swordfish941 05-07-2011 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BurtReynoldsMoustache (Post 28736)
There are plenty of rational people who think Israel shouldn't exist either. Some of them are even Jews.

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs39/f/20...y_Rikko_43.jpg

http://funny.desivalley.com/wp-conte...ny-picture.jpg

http://imagemacros.files.wordpress.c...b_predator.jpg

I had to post three photos with the caption "STFU NOOB" just get my point across.

BurtReynoldsMoustache 05-07-2011 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Swordfish941 (Post 28739)
I had to post three photos with the caption "STFU NOOB" just get my point across.

Swordfish you don't have a point. This is how children argue. You say something they don't agree with and they react with blown raspberries and "nuh uh, it is YOU, good sir, who is indeed the doo-doo head in this present scenario". You're in high school now, you're too old for name calling and sticking your fingers in your ears.

k9870 05-07-2011 06:19 PM

so bury, what would you do with israel? Just wondering, turn it into a hezbolla plaground or another islamic regime?

Swordfish941 05-07-2011 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BurtReynoldsMoustache (Post 28741)
Swordfish you don't have a point. This is how children argue. You say something they don't agree with and they react with blown raspberries and "nuh uh, it is YOU, good sir, who is indeed the doo-doo head in this present scenario". You're in high school now, you're too old for name calling and sticking your fingers in your ears.

I'm not saying that I'm just replying to your posts with images that say STFU N00B. And you the only person on this forum who's opinions that I somewhat agree agree with are MT2008 (and if he is going to temp ban me because I replied to your posts, then I am willing to be banned).

Markit 05-07-2011 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 28738)
well there is plenty of rational people who dont believe america should exists but the can go perform an impossible sexual act to themselves as well.

Look at the countries surrounding israel. They are totalitarian regimes. Look at israel. The are a prosperous democracy.

Israel has shown an immense degree of tolerance for totalitarianism if it supports their own ultimate goal of national survival - to the extent that any democratic movements in neighboring countries can be construed as threats since they tend to reflect the anti-Israeli sentiments of the populations there, as opposed to the "We can tolerate Israel's existence for foreign aid/non-interference in internal affairs" stance that the Arab leadership has taken.

Evil Tim 05-07-2011 06:25 PM

I have the strangest feeling this thread is going to be locked when I come back. Night, guys.

Swordfish941 05-07-2011 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Tim (Post 28745)
I have the strangest feeling this thread is going to be locked when I come back. Night, guys.

You want to blame it on somebody, then blame it on this n00b:

http://celebrityroast.com/wp-content...s-mustache.jpg

BurtReynoldsMoustache 05-07-2011 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 28742)
so bury, what would you do with israel? Just wondering, turn it into a hezbolla plaground or another islamic regime?

Making it another Islamic regime would be just as bad as it is now. A secular government is the only answer, with all Jews and Palestinians given equal voice, all ethnic and religious distinctions erased in the eyes of the state. Anyone who doesn't want to play nice (Hezbollah, Zionists) can just leave, or be labelled an enemy of the state and terrorist and be prosecuted. The Jews like to portray themselves as being peaceful and wanting to be left alone to be Jewish in their Jewish homeland, using military action only defensively. The truth is they're just as hateful, bigoted, and intolerant as any other group of people that has ever claimed supremacy or superiority over others (the Jews consider themselves "God's chosen people", you can't get much more arrogant than that).

k9870 05-07-2011 06:36 PM

The israeli government is freely elected. Its just like ours, our gov thinks america is the greatest thing since americans are the oters, israels thinks judiaism is the best cause its jews voting.

BurtReynoldsMoustache 05-07-2011 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 28750)
The israeli government is freely elected. Its just like ours, our gov thinks america is the greatest thing since americans are the oters, israels thinks judiaism is the best cause its jews voting.

This is messy and unclear, please clarify.


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