No. You see, in Texas we don't like being cheated. Only recently we've started back on killing cheaters. These electronic voting machines have a habit of either not counting votes for a certain candidate or counting them as votes for the opposite candidate, AKA cheating the voter out of their say in the election. And since we still have people willing to do something about it, the machines got torched

You're an FFL?

Even if it wasn't obvious back in 2008 that Obama would cost the Dems their control of Congress by midterms, I still doubt that he would have so much as touched gun control, especially in his first term. Too many gun owners act like this is still Clinton's America of the 1990s, which is just not true. It's well past time for us to put the Orwellian conspiracy theories and "Red Dawn" fantasies to rest.

You talk about this as though it's trivial.

It's easier now so it's more of a slight annoyance to find ammo than it is an impossibility

Now, yes, but in late-2008 and for most of 2009, it was extremely annoying.

Not to mention that I lost respect for a lot of FFLs who were all too happy to capitalize upon the paranoia (and then hide behind the 2nd Amendment whenever I pointed out how retarded it was to expect Obama to re-implement the AWB, let alone ammo bans).

Banning anything gun related would ruin him politically. Afterwards he probably wouldn't be able to get a position as trivial as "head janitor"

Yeah i been selling firearms for a little over 4 years now. I tried to tell my clients that obama never said a word about gun control and most of the rumors were based on NRA propaganda and his past voting record from illinois.

Fair enough. I don't have a problem with FFLs doing what they exist to do (sell merchandise to make a profit), but feeding the hysteria and pretending it's anything else is far more despicable.

Gun control is a bit of a dead issue now. I would've expected a lot of talk following the VT and Ft. Hood shootings, like after Columbine, but not much. The Democrats and the press have wised up. The most you hear about it now is from Mexican politicians on how you can walk into a Walmart and buy a .50 cal machine gun and grenades and how it's America's fault that drug gangs are out of control.

That's exactly my point...on the Federal level, gun control has pretty much ceased to be a hot button issue. In the last decade, we've seen the death of the Assault Weapons Ban, a favorable ruling in D.C. vs. Heller, and quite a few major shootings that failed to revitalize the gun control debate in any significant way. After all of this, it would seem intuitive that the threat from the gun controllers has receded for the foreseeable future.

I'm sure we'll experience setbacks, especially at the State level, but personally, I'd be surprised if another AWB-type law (meaning, a Federal law that actually tries to ban any weapons/ammo/mags, which is what everybody still seems to fear) gets passed in my lifetime. And yes, I realize that this is a pretty bold statement considering my age.

Any gun control measures will be decided by supreme court, not the congress, In my opinion.

BTW added poll.

Marijuana has been linked to lung-cancer as well, though due to it's legal status I'd imagine that not many studies are available.

http://lungcancer.about.com/od/cause.../marijuana.htm

It also messes up your brain

I can't wait until I can vote

next presidential election man making obama a 1 termer.

Hell yeah. I hope Rick Perry doesn't run as promised. That bastard would run us into the ground

The connection is tenuous due to a large overlap of people who smoke both.

THC doesn't cause brain damage like alcohol does, nor is it addictive. THC "withdrawal" usually means being irritable for a few days, alcohol withdrawal can actually kill you. What is your stance on the legal status of alcohol Shooter?

Ive known people who say weeds not addicting, then cant stop due to the urge to smoke it even when trying to stop. But please, start a new thread to debate weed. This is not the one.

When someone drinks, they are only a douche when actually drunk. Whenever someone uses pot regularly, the douche-ness is always there. I do hate drunk drivers though

There should be a 4th category to the poll; not a US citizen.

So you believe drug smugglers/dealers should be executed for...enabling douchiness? What about douches who don't use any intoxicants at all? I don't think your position is a very well thought out one.

forgot it was an international forum, my bad.

That's what I don't like about the "Supreme Court".
What makes them so qualified as to be the final word on our constitutional rights. These court-members are political appointees by presidents so the Supreme Court might as well be another crooked Legislative branch.

God this debate is exhausting. The drug debate. For what it's worth (and if anyone cares) I have no problem with legalizing marijuana. It would be safer, would remove some of the vast,untaxed , income that the drug cartels are making and could become a source of tax for the goverment. And it would probably be diluted like alcohol is.

Some of my fellow officers used to be shocked by my opinion. Oh well. If I'm the one who is coming to help them when the s*** has hit the fan they don't really give a damn about my political stance on marijuana.

Yes I still enfoce the law. If I find marijuana on you you will be charged. But I don't have the religious zeal that some do.

Actually as I get farther into my forties I find that the clarity and crusading spirit of my younger days is fading. Thank God for that. It's tiring.

Oh and I live in Idaho. One of the most solidly Republican and Pro-gun states in the Union. You'd have a better chance getting a Pro-big business, homophobic and anti-enviromental Republican elected as Mayor in Boulder, Colorado than you would passing any anti-gun legistlation at the state level in Idaho. The last congressman that Idaho sent to D.C. who voted in favor of gun control legislation lost in a landslide in 94. HUGE and nobody has even gone near it since.

No, jackass, it's because the money funds the cartels. You know, those guys in Mexico who regularly torture and decapitate people for no goddamn reason?

Of course Burt is going to say that the only reason they are getting money from drugs is because its illegal in the US....

I am tired of repeating everything over and over again. This little discussion beteween BurtReynoldsMoustache and I is over

Yeah, weed debate over. Fact stands legal or not if you revolve your life around it your a loser. I look back and see the kids i went to high school with who bombed classes due to weed use not doing a thing with their lives i get glad i never did it.

How do you change polls?

I wouldn't have even brought it up in this thread if Shooter hadn't mentioned his support of EXECUTING drug smugglers. FYI Coca Cola and Dole have their own death squads, let's kill people who who sell soda and pineapples.

Also guns/drugs don't kill people, people/people kill people. Yay personal responsibility.

Yes of course and I'd like to hear a legitimate argument against this.

Though I do have a "legitimate argument" I'm not going to discuss it with you because really -what you think doesn't fuckin' matter to me as you are obviously too far gone.

The old "I don't have to back up my point because I declare you to be crazy" tactic.

you two, lets act like big kids, put on our big girl panties and straighten the fuck up.
sure...i admit burt can be an annoying whiny little bitch sometimes, but you have to ignore it and stay on topic.

That's enough. Its turned into one of "those" threads.