In the old Mossberg vs Remington debates, one of the pro-Mossberg points was the location of the safety. But it's a bit out of the way if you have a pistol grip on, is it not?

I already made that point, but I don't think he wants to acknowledge it. I think he's doing it solely for tacticoolness as Matt described, but in a way there's nothing tactical about it.

Dunno, but $315-$440 still sounds outrageous to me

http://www.surefire.com/Mossberg590500

"Light-dedicated" is a term I use somewhat incorrectly, that would for me include something like a Mako tactical forend with a rail to accept a light, which runs for about $50.

The only reason why I want the Blackhawk one is the recoil compensation on it. It's not that bad. If I get a full stock, all I'd get is unmitigated recoil. Sure the Blackhawk stock won't get rid of all the recoil, but it'll help.

Do you know what will help more? A 20 doallar limbsaver or pachmayr recoil pad.

Dunno if that will help more, but yeah a buttpad would be cheaper and probably more functional. It won't "reduce recoil" persay, but it will absorb some of the shock, and do it without a buncha springs and plastic that could possibly snap. If you were to get the standard Mossberg stock, you could utilize the safety efficiently still, and even with a buttpad you'd be well under the price for the Blackhawk, and that money could go toward ammo for shooting and perhaps some more buckshot for defense.

When i put on a limbsaver, difference was night and day, pleasant with limbsaver, annoying with the rock hard remington pad.

The Remington stock pad is pretty stiff for rubber, and my shoulder did get a little stiff after pretty limited shooting, but it wasn't shoulder-breakingly bad. I've entertained the notion of buying one of their R3 recoil pads to see if its any better, but my shotgun shooting and customization has taken a back seat to saving up for more guns.

I decided to cut off cerberus guns now, they suck as a company, but my remington isn't going anywhere either. I got my marlin right before production switched. good thing is the former bushmaster people they laid off get to work at a cool new rifle company that should open next month, local rifles FTW:)