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S&Wshooter 09-04-2010 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 18488)
Delta shooters are allowed to use their own personal sidearms, at least according to Eric Haney's book.

I believe they are supposed to go out and buy a 1911 and the gov't reimburses them

BurtReynoldsMoustache 09-04-2010 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 18488)
Delta shooters are allowed to use their own personal sidearms, at least according to Eric Haney's book.

Some guy told me Delta operators are allowed to carry any kind of loaded firearm on commercial flights.

Nyles 09-04-2010 12:33 AM

Yeah, there's alot of that "some guy said" or "everyone knows" when it comes to military sidearms, espescially with SOF, but alot of it is just internet stories.

No western army is going to allow it's line troops carry something that's not standard-issue, that is a logistic and legal nightmare. The only SOF organizations I've ever worked with were SAS, US SEALS and Canadian groups I'd rather not name. They all had P226s, and they were all issued.

BurtReynoldsMoustache 09-04-2010 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyles (Post 18493)
Yeah, there's alot of that "some guy said" or "everyone knows" when it comes to military sidearms, espescially with SOF, but alot of it is just internet stories.

No western army is going to allow it's line troops carry something that's not standard-issue, that is a logistic and legal nightmare. The only SOF organizations I've ever worked with were SAS, US SEALS and Canadian groups I'd rather not name. They all had P226s, and they were all issued.

Living in fear of the big bad Canadians are we?

S&Wshooter 09-04-2010 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyles (Post 18493)
Yeah, there's alot of that "some guy said" or "everyone knows" when it comes to military sidearms, espescially with SOF, but alot of it is just internet stories.

No western army is going to allow it's line troops carry something that's not standard-issue, that is a logistic and legal nightmare. The only SOF organizations I've ever worked with were SAS, US SEALS and Canadian groups I'd rather not name. They all had P226s, and they were all issued.

That's because the P226 is fucking awesome

funkychinaman 09-04-2010 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Joker6686 (Post 18473)
As i heard today they still have :D They didn't replace all G3s oder P1s.

The difference between the P38 and the P1 is afaik not a really big one, in case the P1 is a modificated p38, but the P38 has a steel grip and the P1 a grip made of lightmetal

I've got a weird P38. It obviously has the alloy slide, but it's stamped P38.

Excalibur 09-04-2010 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BurtReynoldsMoustache (Post 18491)
Some guy told me Delta operators are allowed to carry any kind of loaded firearm on commercial flights.

And just how do you think they get pass security and metal detectors at the airports? Do they just wave a badge that saids, I'm spec ops and yes I got a gun.

Nyles 09-04-2010 01:35 AM

Post-war commercial guns with the alloy frame were still marked P.38, military / police production was marked P1.

And I don't reference the Canadian groups by name because I'm in the Canadian military and I actually care about OPSEC. It's in the public domain that Canadian SOF uses the P226, so I'll say that, but what units I worked with and when I did it doesn't need to be on IMFDB.

BurtReynoldsMoustache 09-04-2010 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 18500)
And just how do you think they get pass security and metal detectors at the airports? Do they just wave a badge that saids, I'm spec ops and yes I got a gun.

I asked him and that was literally his answer.

Rockwolf66 09-04-2010 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BurtReynoldsMoustache (Post 18504)
I asked him and that was literally his answer.

He sounds alot like I guy I know who claims to have worked Marine Intelligence in Somalia. His stories have lots of nice big holes in it that I could drive a LAV-25 through. Stuff like as intelligence he went out to personally figure out where the Warlords Commo shacks were or that he personally confirmed that warload leadership was meeting so that Airsupport could waste the lot of them....Well the warlord leadership thing happened but his details are well off from what is publically available.


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