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Nyles 04-24-2010 02:49 AM

Hint: It's in .303.

Nyles 04-27-2010 06:15 PM

No one wants to take a crack at it? I even mentionned it in passing not that long ago.

Markost 04-28-2010 04:09 AM

Possibly one of the fugliest automatic rifles I have ever seen, the Huot auto rifle.

Nyles 04-28-2010 06:07 AM

And Markost gets it.

Funny thing is, the Huot was actually a surprisingly effective weapon, considering it's a Ross rifle converted to a machine gun. I read the original report on the thing from 1918, and it actually beat the Lewis in almost every test they put them through, including (amazingly) reliability. If WW1 had lasted into 1919 we were going to ditch the Lewis for the Huot.

I'm sure budget was a factor, considering we still had hundreds of thousands of Rosses on inventory and no good use for them, and it was a hell of alot cheaper to convert them to Huots than to buy more Lewis guns, but the testing data was actually pretty solid.

Mandolin1 04-28-2010 09:06 PM

Wasn't the Ross the rifle equivelet of the French Chauceat or whatever you call teh thing? You know, the jam-o-matic "machine gun" that never worked? Supprising how good teh Ross was as an MG

Markost 04-29-2010 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandolin1 (Post 13320)
Wasn't the Ross the rifle equivelet of the French Chauceat or whatever you call teh thing? You know, the jam-o-matic "machine gun" that never worked? Supprising how good teh Ross was as an MG

Nopes, the Ross is a bolt-action rifle, and the Chauchat was a light machinegun, like the Madsen.

Btw, guess this (easy):

http://i42.tinypic.com/34eymh2.jpg

Nyles 04-29-2010 06:07 AM

The Ross was definately not a successful weapon. It was too long, too heavy, too complicated (there are literally 9 parts to the front sight) and tended to jam when fired quickly or dirty. It was an awesome sporting rifle, an superb sniper rifle, but it was not a good infantry rifle.

That said, the Chauchat was actually a better gun than it tends to get credit for. The American sucked, for sure, but that's because it was chambered in .30-06 when the gun was designed for 8mm Lebel. You chamber any gun in a round that generates pressures it wasn't designed for, you're going to have problems. In French service they actually weren't that bad. Not great, but not that bad.

I do actually know that one, but I'll give somebody else a shot on it.

Zulu Two Six 08-16-2010 02:17 AM

THREAD RESURECTION!
BY THE POWER OF THE MIGHTY BANHAMMER I PRONOUNCE YOU NEW!!!!
seriously, lets continue this old topic

Markost 08-16-2010 03:03 AM

Well, nobody answered, itīs a mexican Mendoza.

Zulu, youīre the necromancer, so itīs your turn.

Nyles 08-16-2010 03:44 AM

Oh, right, I meant to post the answer to that. Yeah, it's a Mendoza M1934.


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