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Gunmaster45 08-07-2009 01:30 AM

I'm straight, I'm just saying. :D

Wrong phrase usage.

Excalibur 08-07-2009 01:38 AM

LOL, just messing with you. Hey you're that age where people start to wonder about sex and who they should fuck.

Gunmaster45 08-07-2009 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 5677)
LOL, just messing with you. Hey you're that age where people start to wonder about sex and who they should fuck.

I like women.

Soooo, lets get back on topic. :D

Glory and Dances With Wolves are good movies if you want to go a little farther back in time. I hate how the Union is always the bad guys though in Civil War movies.

Excalibur 08-07-2009 01:52 AM

The Thin Red Line was ok.

Nyles 08-07-2009 02:21 AM

Gettysburg is fucking amazing. Zulu is great.

Ace Oliveira 08-07-2009 02:17 PM

Glory and Gettysburg are great movies. Zulu too. And John, i don't really think the Union are always the bad guys.

Alcatrazz 08-07-2009 04:30 PM

Gods and Generals was okay, but it was so goddamn talky. Shut up and let me see the battles. Enough of Jeff Daniels!

Ace Oliveira 08-07-2009 04:31 PM

Gods and Generals was horrible.

k9870 08-07-2009 04:40 PM

WAAAY too long, not enough action.

Excalibur 08-07-2009 06:15 PM

I got bored of it half way

Gunmaster45 08-08-2009 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ace Oliveira (Post 5705)
Glory and Gettysburg are great movies. Zulu too. And John, i don't really think the Union are always the bad guys.

They typically tend to be shown that way. In The Outlaw Josey Wales, in Dances With Wolvers (Kostner was an exception, but everyone else was against him), The Good Bad Ugly (Angel Eyes and his thugs). There's more but I can't think of them.

It just seems like sometimes filmakers tip the favor to the confederates too often. Not to offend southerners, but the confederates were kinda the "bad guys" of that war, since they wanted slavery. And that's wrong. :)

k9870 08-08-2009 05:22 AM

Peopel wer ecomplaining about how the souh was portrayed as racist bad guys so they try to show "the struggle for states rights" and get all the viewpoints, then notice there being partial to the south, lol. Trying to please everyone.

Yournamehere 08-08-2009 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunmaster45 (Post 5730)
It just seems like sometimes filmakers tip the favor to the confederates too often. Not to offend southerners, but the confederates were kinda the "bad guys" of that war, since they wanted slavery. And that's wrong. :)

That's a common viewpoint, but the North didn't want to end slavery itself, though it was considered a haven by abolitionists. The North had hinted that the freedom of slaves was to come, through ceasing expansion of the slave trade in new territories, but they were ultimately only freed because of inflamed politicians trying both to cripple and piss off their enemies, more enflamed politicians,Southern of course. Their freedom was a stroke of dumb luck which made the North look like they were advocating the end to this the entire time, as well as the "good guys" to the rest of the world, which was more or less acting on the cool new fad of freeing slaves.

All in all, abolition just sort of happened, and was not a major issue involving the war itself, though the (imaginary, in some cases) contrast between Northerners and Southerners is often portrayed in film work because........ it's easier to understand than what actually happened. It's also a pity that the dumb luck that freed the slaves wouldn't actually free them for another hundred or so years. Some say we are still in a "Second Reconstruction", but you'll learn all of this jibbery joo in your High School history class too :D.

Gunmaster45 08-08-2009 09:11 PM

Hopefully. I'll I've learned about for the past two years is "Global" history, which is all the boring ancient stuff. I like US History much better.

Ace Oliveira 08-08-2009 09:40 PM

In the last school years you are going to learn all about the kick ass stuff. Like the World Wars, the Korean War, the Berlin Airlift, the entire Cold War, the Vietnam War and all other fun stuff. And if you history teacher is like mine he will let you help him with the class. And if he is witty like mine he will let you subtly insult the dumb members of the Class.

Yournamehere 08-08-2009 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunmaster45 (Post 5773)
Hopefully. I'll I've learned about for the past two years is "Global" history, which is all the boring ancient stuff. I like US History much better.

I'm the same way. Once I entered 11th grade I was able to take US history, and while my teacher wasn't the best at appealing to all of us, I gathered some pretty good information from time to time.

Ace Oliveira 08-08-2009 11:23 PM

Modern national and international history much better than ancient history.

Gunmaster45 08-10-2009 09:13 AM

Sadly the history teacher I was supposed to have this year retired. Some considered him the best, and I thought he was awesome because he talked about guns a lot, based on what I chatted with him on in my study hall last year. I watched "Bridge on the River Kwai" in his study hall and we had a chat about the Vickers Maxim, and how they had to smack the base to turn the gun on the tripod. Great stuff. :D

He let me borrow the Four Feathers and Hotel Rwanda movies to screencap. I'm really upset he's not going to be my teacher. I'll get dumped with some rookie dumbass I'll hate now. Sucks. :(

Ace Oliveira 08-10-2009 02:36 PM

My History teacher is cool too. Sadly the Brazilian Educational system makes only the 9th grade students study and learn about the 20th Century and the 21th Century. Sucks.

k9870 08-10-2009 08:26 PM

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I'll get dumped with some rookie dumbass I'll hate now.

I had a first year teacher end up being one of my favorites, dont droip your hopes already.,

Nyles 08-10-2009 09:50 PM

My favorite teacher in high school was only on his second or third year of teaching grade 12 history and he was amazing - very knowledgeable, we spent something like a month on the French revolution and Napoleon. Ironically I had his dad as a professor in my last year of university, and he was kind of an asshole.

Ace Oliveira 08-10-2009 09:54 PM

The only thing i don't like about my History Teacher is that he doesn't understand about Military Weapons and Uniforms. Last time he teached my class he said that the Helmet of the US armed forces had integrated radios.
He does know all about the Economic stuff about most Armed Forces.

Gunmaster45 08-10-2009 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 5839)
I had a first year teacher end up being one of my favorites, dont droip your hopes already.,

But we had "test" classes this year with all of the candidates to see who would get the job best, and they ALL sucked.

MT2008 08-11-2009 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ace Oliveira (Post 5841)
The only thing i don't like about my History Teacher is that he doesn't understand about Military Weapons and Uniforms. Last time he teached my class he said that the Helmet of the US armed forces had integrated radios.
He does know all about the Economic stuff about most Armed Forces.

Uh, don't you think that's kind of a ridiculous expectation? :D

Yournamehere 08-11-2009 03:59 AM

Yeah man, they teach history, not military history, just history. My teacher was pretty cool, but whenever we would talk about war or combat in WWII on the Russian front, he'd always say "the Russian version of the Thompson Submachinegun" as opposed to "PPSh". I would say something like "it was called a PPSh and wasn't very much like a Thompson, but that's just the weapon system and doesn't have much to do with the lesson, so continue." They're not there to teach you about guns and uniforms, you're supposed to learn about everything else, really.

Excalibur 08-11-2009 04:37 AM

And if you are in American, a lot of school teachers can sometimes be TOO sensitive to information that kids know. If you happen to know X amount of things about firearms and say it in school, some might even start asking, how do you know all this? But it's not a question to compliment your knowledge, it's an accusing question, as if only psycho killers know more about guns and knives. I went through a phase in high school where I like drawing sword and dagger designs and symbols on them. Why? Because I had a great deal of interests and knowledge at the time about swords and other weapons of that type. I got called into the counselor's office to "discuss" about it. After that, I kept an eye out and keep my hobbies that might be "suspicious" to some people in school.

People can be overly sensitive sometimes and in the cast of the society of school, all the time.

Gunmaster45 08-11-2009 05:03 AM

We can thank Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, and Seung-hui Cho for people being overly sensitive these days. :cool:

Excalibur 08-12-2009 04:58 AM

Those among the most famous school shooters. Did you know before them and after them and inbetween them were dozens of other school shootings throughout the US, but barely any of them get reported. It takes particular ones like these 3 that gets the attention of the media whores that just eats it up and shit it out for the general public.

My joke on this was, see what happens when you don't allow guns in school, psychos like these 3 idiots get to have a fish in the barrel moment with their classmates. My High School had 2 on duty police officers all the time, so that might prevent incident, but it's the fact that the media uses these incidents to really try to put on negative pressure in even thinking about firearms.

Yournamehere 08-12-2009 08:17 AM

I had cops at mine too, but they got reported because they were "record breakers" in a sense that they killed more people. It's not as "sensational" if they student doesn't do a "lot" of damage. I hate the news.

Some kid Asa Coon, though, went to school with two .22 Revolvers and wounded four people. That's right, wounded, no kills, save for himself. No one talks about that one though.

Ace Oliveira 08-12-2009 06:16 PM

How about that kid with the flamethrower and lance?

Gunmaster45 08-12-2009 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ace Oliveira (Post 5905)
How about that kid with the flamethrower and lance?

How the hell did he smuggle those things in? :confused:

Excalibur 08-12-2009 09:32 PM

That's a GOOD question. Link please to this news. I want to see this.

I mean, a kid with a flamethrower...THAT is news! I've never heard of this. Where would the kid even get one?!

Ace Oliveira 08-12-2009 09:44 PM

Homemade.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cologne_school_massacre

Those germans are fucking hardcore. In a bad way.

Gunmaster45 08-12-2009 09:51 PM

Well now it makes sense, he was a Nazi. And wasn't even a student.

I mean a Catholic Elementary school? What an asshole...

Ace Oliveira 08-12-2009 10:00 PM

"I am Adolf Hitler the second!"

That is just INSANE.

Well, he was insane. I bet he dual welded the Lance and Flamethrower.

Excalibur 08-12-2009 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunmaster45 (Post 5926)
Well now it makes sense, he was a Nazi. And wasn't even a student.

I mean a Catholic Elementary school? What an asshole...

Obviously you've never attended a Catholic school in your life, those nuns are vicious...I don't know what German Catholic schools are like, but American ones, the nuns are deadly. He wouldn't have made it through the front door! Every knows American Catholic school nuns are immune to fire! A lance? Those nuns got yard sticks!

...what too soon?

It's been over 40 years, I can make a joke about it.

Ace Oliveira 08-12-2009 10:06 PM

The school lancing and flamethrowing happened in 1964. It's not soon. Its late.

Excalibur 08-12-2009 10:11 PM

It's an out of place joke, laugh ok

Gunmaster45 08-12-2009 10:15 PM

I'm just saying, sounds like it would be a nice place, that didn't deserve to be burned and lanced. :confused:

Ace Oliveira 08-12-2009 10:16 PM

It is. Catholic schools are nice.


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