That's awesome! How did you come across this opportunity?

Quite a bit of the movie was filmed on location in NC (but not at UNC, which turned them away), including the scene at the beginning which supposedly takes place in DC. Local extras were used on some scenes. However, some scenes - especially re-shoots - supposedly taking place in NC were also done elsewhere (Canada). One thing I'm still lamenting to this day is how they mix footage of the Duke and UNC campuses to confuse viewers into thinking they're the same school.

The thing is, after many years of looking over a copy of the film on VHS, I'm fairly certain that the most you see of me in the movie is the back of my head and my right arm during the opening scene. So it's barely even a "cameo". At one point in filming, the camera did pass in front of my face, but as best I can tell, any footage showing me clearly was left on the editing room floor. I was very disappointed (because I was about 11 at the time) that I didn't appear visibly.

But at least I got Morgan Freeman's autograph on a Tar Heel basketball. :D

Ooops, I did write .45 instead of .50
The joke must have changed halfway through writing it.
But if you do make movies, please please please don't ignore misfires. I find it so ridiculous when someone's gun jams or runs out, and they are firing it again a millisecond later.

Trust me, I would never allow that to happen. Also, I'd use realistic gun fire (echoes outside, short and deafening inside), have the actors fake recoil (properly), and have them take firearms training course or teach them myself how to handle a firearm properly. Unless they are some dumbass drug dealer character. Then they can do what they want, since it would be realistic for them to know nothing.

The character with the concealed weapon is a less than sentimental man. He is pretty much just a killer with larger intentions who sees his guns as a means to an end, so efficacy is my ideal here. Exotic fire arms however would play in well as being part of the thread of him making it difficult to track his weapon purchases until after he has made his kills.

Threading the silencer on after pulling it works perfectly for my character, as preparation, and advanced timing are absolute components of this character, and his method. So the question becomes, what silencer pistol combo is best for efficacy and concealability? The goal here is for a man who naturally blends in not to raise any flags until after the fact, so a minimal disruption of his profile would be best, but I can write in some tricky little extra pocket or some such thing if necessary to ad some flair.

You can't suppress a revolver, but maybe a 4" Smith & Wesson 500 would suit him, since it will definately stop whomever he wants it to.

The only gun I could think of being "exotic" is the FN Five-seveN, since the round isn't super common and is good for body armor. Ever other compact gun I can think of is either too typical or too boring.

The character with the concealed weapon is a less than sentimental man. He is pretty much just a killer with larger intentions who sees his guns as a means to an end, so efficacy is my ideal here. Exotic fire arms however would play in well as being part of the thread of him making it difficult to track his weapon purchases until after he has made his kills.

Threading the silencer on after pulling it works perfectly for mt character, as preparation, and advanced timing are absolute components of this character, and his method. So the question becomes, what silencer pistol combo is best for efficacy and concealability? The goal here is for a man who naturally blends in not to raise any flags until after the fact, so a minimal disruption of his profile would be best, but I can write in some tricky little extra pocket or some such thing if necessary to ad some flair.

As for the Shansi type 17, could the barrel be retrofitted with an inbuilt suppressor? This question extends to all of these guns. In truth, my preference is to guns with a more modern feel and cleaner lines, at least for this character, but for the ceramic man, any gun model will do.

Another question. I swear that I was watching the history channel while eating Thai food at like 4 in the morning a while ago, and that the guy leading the show people through the fire arms demonstrations showed off a .22 pistol with a 30 or so round capacity that fired in automatic. Now I could easily have the numbers wrong, but I swear he was demonstrating an automatic .22 pistol. Now this may have been under the influence of Panang curry from a place famous for it's hot curry, but I am so certain I saw this pistol. He pointed the pistol at a target paper, pulled the trigger, and the damn thing just flew apart. Now someone on this board must know what I am talking about.

Five sevens arent exotic, they are quite common, hell 5.7x28mm is the only pistol caliber i can find around here, it is expensive though, and armor piercing stuff isnt sold. A 7.62x25mm will pierce armor, libs just dont see a need to go after a cz-52 or tt33.

Most .22s are also pretty big, and rimfires arent combat reliable, mostly do to ammo. Id go centerfire.

And a nagant revolver can be silenced, the rounds just wimpy, 157 ft lbs in a fmj....

Nagant revolver....
that's the one that moves the cylinder up with each shot right? Better chamber seal... makes sense.
But it has a 20lb trigger pull in double action, that's got to be punishing.

As for Five-seveN, I have loved that thing for a long time now, but I guess blanks don't do too well in it.

The 5.7 pistol is underpowered, its basically a .22 amg in stopping power. It is accurate as anything though, my friend hits the 100 yard target with his

After watching Taken, the Taurus Millenium Pro looks pretty interesting. A subcompact in .45 isn't bad, and with an extended barrel it could be suppressed.

Personally, If I was a bare basics assassin that wan't a good gun to get the job done, obviously some type of 1911 would be my choice. Just extend the barrel and thread it for a suppressor. Even a compact or subcompact version from someone like Para-Ordnance would work.

Well, the problem is 45 doesn't seem to work well in subcompacts. One assasins pistol that seems interesting is the Russian (PSS?) that's ammunition contains a piston so it is silent, without a silencer! No extra size or bulk.

Yeah it's the PSS. It was in MGS4. The gun looks like a piece of crap though, regardless of the neat piston suppression system.

Almost all semi auto pistol can be converted to fully automatic. It's simple and wore out guns can something go automatic. There are safety concern tho.

The barrel must be thread in order to put a suppressor. The fastest way is to buy a drop in threaded barrel.

You don't want exotic weapons because they can be easily traced back to the maker and then to the buyer. If you want to make it realistic I suggest common firearms. Otherwise it fine.

If you don't want want him to be tracked, have him make his own weapons. Anyone that has the time and a working brain can clone any modern weapons. It isn't hard to do.

One more thing, the Rohrbaugh R9S are pocket/back up guns (BUG). They aren't design for heavy uses and whatever the manufactures said they won't last more then few thousands rounds.

Excellent points.

My mentioning of the shansi was largely because I met a man somewhat recently who has somehow come into possession of one and showed it to me at a firing range. I was quite impressed by its suppression, and though my real world experience with guns is limited, but my understanding was that guns, by and large wee generally much louder when silenced than movies and TV would have the ignorant masses like myself believe.

My inexperience with firearms in mind, I am just about finished with my research. I have familiarized myself with a number of different things, learned a number of different things, including how to use a garrote properly from my neighbor who is significantly more intimidating now, but two things remain.

1. I think I need to look into a firearms modeling and/or design program to get a clear outsiders perspective for firearms. I would prefer a program with a range from small to at least medium arms for the full range of what I have in mind.

2. I think I need to buy at least one gun and get a realistic sense for how firearms handle on a personal level, how they sound, and how aiming and such work. As such, a little advice on my first gun would be greatly appreciated. I was thinking something small and harmless like a .22 unless that wouldn't give me a real feel for gun play. If so, what exactly should I be thinking about buying? And do I need to buy a gun? Do they have rentals or loaners at firing ranges that I could use on a consistent basis so that I could get a feel for a single gun and would that be a good plan?

IF the autosear gets worn it can also fire full auto. The guy at my hunter's saefty course told me how his shotgun fired all five shots when the sear got worn down. It was replaced but he never trusted it again.

That sounds like it would be more than a little frightening.

Maybe I'm wierd but it sounds fun. If you weren't expecting it it could suck but if you knew your shotgun fired full auto, I'd put time in my schedule for that bit of fun.

I can assure you that .22lr isn't harmless. The Israeli use them successfully against terrorists. Lots of SF commandos has .22lr rifles and pistols in their armory.

My favorite caliber is .22lr. I shoot between 50,000 to 100,000 a year when I was very active in shooting and young. Now a days around 25,000 to 30,000.

Yes most gun range has pistols (and some might have rifles) for loan. However you have to buy their overpriced ammo to use them.

Firearms are good investments. For personal safety as well as financial. Firearms do not lose much of their value if any over time even if used. So you should buy at least one pistol, rifle, and shotgun.

For first time shooter I suggest you load one round into the magazine so you know how the recoil feels. After that load as much as you like. Everybody gets nervous the first time but after that, like everything else a non-event.

You probably going to shoot a pistol first so I suggest you read this. Do not let the firearm control you. You control the firearm. Force your will into it. Don't be scare of gun. Firm grip!

http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=290


Remember the four safety rules. These rules can't be broken.
Rule #1 - All guns are always loaded.

Rule #2 - Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not ready to destroy.

Rule #3 - Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.

Rule #4 - Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.

Here is my list of top pistols and rifle. Not in any order.

Pistols:
1911
Glock 17 or 19
92FS
Browning HP
CZ 75

Rifles:
AR15
FAL
Rem 700
Ruger 10/22
AK

If you have anymore questions feel free to ask.

Strictly speaking, training with firearms should go pistol rifle shotgun not rifle shotgun pistol?

And when training with a shotgun, what style of shell should I use? buck shot, bird shot, or slug?

What are good programs to get a sense for ballistics in an academic sense? Design of bullets, payloads, and weapons? Included in a down to earth understanding of the process I would also like to develop a bit of a clinical understanding of the process involved.

Also, purely as an artist, I regret not seeing the vector on that list. It has such clean lines.

For clarfication, I have been wondeing about something. There are certain guns that are called machine pistols rather than submachineguns that baffle me. The reason for this is not just the fact that they are cosmetically
very much rifle like, but that they are chambered in what is usually a rifle round, so how they can be a pistol does not make sense to me. I was wondering if you gentlemen could clear this up for me.

For example:

http://www.olyarms.com/index.php?pag...mart&Itemid=37
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLR-16

The lack of stock may be it.

Machine gun: Rifle Calibers

Sub-Machine gun: Pistol calibers


Both examples have no stock, and are short. There pistols.

They should differentiate more. A pistol caliber handgun that fires fully automatic is called a "machine pistol", but it should be "submachine pistol". And the rifle calibered pistols should be called "pistols", because they aren't full auto guns, so machine pistol doesn't apply to these guns. If it was a full auto pistol that fires rifle rounds, THEN it could be considered a machine pistol.

It depends on how old you are. When I was a kid I was train first in rifle, shotgun, and pistol. The military train rifle first then pistol. However pistol training time in the military is very low.

If you're an adult and getting your first firearm it probably should be a pistol, then shotgun, and rifle because pistol are the prefer choice for self defense.

Depends on how much money you have for ammo. Money and time is always the limiting factor in training. Bird shot are inexpensive so you get more for the buck. However for home defense I'll go with 00 buck. Do not use bird shot for personnel defense. They are not design for it.

I belong to a private gun club. Our private club has an outdoor and indoor range. The outdoor range open to our members till 7pm/7 because we do not what to disturb our neighbors. The indoor range open 24/7. Basically every member has a key to the range. There is no range officer.

So if I am the only person or if the members there agree, there is no fireline and no firelane. We can do whatever training we like as long as we fellow the safety rules.

People get high on ballistic. I use to when I was a kid but not anymore. I don't lose any sleep over stopping power between 9mm vs 45ACP or .22 cal vs. 30 cal. because here the absolute truth. There is none. You keep shooting until your opponent is dead. Period.

If you're still hang up on ballistic, check this site.

http://www.brassfetcher.com/
http://www.brassfetcher.com/oldindex.html

Rent a Glock 17 or 19 and buy 100 or two 9mm 115 or 124 grn bullet. Shoot and have fun.

The Magpul dvd is inexpensive compare to other video of its kind. It mainly deals with carbine but touch on some basic pistol shooting, ie transition from rifle/carbine to pistol in combat.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/M...ining_DVD.html

If you decided that you like shooting go join a pivate Gun Club or complete completing in completion. Like this young lady here. She's using a Glock 17.

http://rpginn.com/index.php?option=c...=577&Itemid=39

Another point of confusion.

Flechette rounds fly longer and straighter than conventional rounds. Yet sniper rifles use conventional style rounds. Why is that? It seems to me that Sabot Flechette rounds would extend the range of snipers and thus increase their effectiveness. Is there a specific reason other than availability of ammunition that the changeover to Flechette rounds hasn't been made?

I'm pretty sure they are banned by the Genneva convention... but for some reason I could buy a box of 100 out of cheaper than dirt if I wanted without any restrictions. The flachette round seemed interesting but I can't see how they wouldn't mess up function since they aren't round at the head.

You mean the Vector CP1? I think they are kind of ugly personally. I don't know how reliable they are, but it is an interesting enough choice. They looked good in xXx.

Flechettes might fly straight, but their wound channels are tiny, they deflect easily [SALVO / SPIW found their 5.6x53mm and 5.6x44mm flechettes could be deflected by raindrops], they're very, very expensive to produce, tend to be loud and have excessive muzzle flash, and since their range largely comes from being light and aerodynamic, their performance against armour is spotty, too; there's something to be said for rounds having high momentum rather than just high kinetic energy.

Gunmaster45: It's been argued that the Geneva Convention forbids deploying artillery flechette rounds in civilian populated areas; people argue they violate the provisions protecting non-combatants, on the basis that an arty flechette is a fragmentation round with 8,000 8-grain nails as well as bits of the casing to kill people with, and so it might kill people. As opposed to any other artillery shell you might fire at a civilian populated area which wouldn't kill anyone, I guess.

Didn't stop the US Military from using them in Vietnam.

I'm confused on a kinetic energy level how a raindrop deflects a round. That sounds fantastic to me. I thought that a flecette assault rifle was in therunning to replace the M16 at one point?