Meet the MP5SF.

http://www.heckler-koch.de/media/Pro...uns/mp5_sf.jpg
http://www.heckler-koch.de/HKWebText.../1926/126/4/20

Is this currently available in America,in an un-neutered state?

Modern production of the Girandoni air rifle, except not extremely delicate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_Air_Rifle

The thing shot .51 caliber BB's with the muzzle velocity of a .45!

They don't sell MP5SFs here, at least not that I've seen. They are sold to and usually seen in the hands of various Europen Law Enforcement Agencies who want the MP5 system with a semi-auto only firemode. It seems a bit strange, but some LE guys over there don't see the need for full auto weapons, and if you think about it, full auto is mostly for suppression, and I can't see many scenarios where suppressive fire could be called upon in LE duty, aside from North Hollywood type gun battles, but those are few and far between.

Oddly enough they will do all kinds of firemodes on the MP5s. I saw a guy selling some MP5s for his LE agency here in America and they had semi-auto and 2 round burst firemodes, no 3 round or auto. Interesting stuff.

wow, colt should know to update the grip and stock if their making an expensive new rifle.

Why? This was the worst gun I've ever shot. The grip safety is insanely stiff and throws off accuracy horribly.

It would be nice for H&K to make a gun that was actually worth the money you would spend on it

It's not a safety, it is the cocking mechanism. My brother-in-law has one, and I've fired it and love it. It bucks a bit because of the gas piston, but that allowed the pistol to use any type of ammo without changing the springs. I find it to be very accurate, and I'd own one if I could afford it. The only complaint I have is that the cocking mechanism is a tad noisy. It is a good pistol for a south paw, which we both are.

David.

Are you referring to the Colt SCAR Light I posted? If so, then why fix what isn't broken?

A triple barreled shotgun.

You can get a Drillings rifle made that way

Triple barrel break open Duckfoot pistol chambered for .357 Magnum

LeMat chambered for .38 special and .410 gauge

select fire CX4 Storm

Five-seveN with 2rd burst

.357 Magnum Sub machine gun

.50 AE Sub machine gun (Demonic Eagle)

Pump-action AK-47

Pump-action AK-47 Cut down into a pistol

Semi-auto Lee-Enfield

Vuvuzela with pistol grip and bayonet

A mall-ninja's horn?

They already make a pump action AK. Well, at least somebody has made a few
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl927obOpxU

Realistically, a SA/DA single stack M1911, or a Hi-point carbine in 7.62 Tok.

If you want me to get crazy, handgun, .357 SIG, double stack, SA/DA with decocker, under $600.

A double barreled grenade launcher.

That would be friggin awesome.Grenade in one barrel, bigass shotshell like they had for the M79 in the other

I got one: A Revolver chambered in .50 AE.

I saw one of those once. It was one of those commemorative guns they sell out of American Rifleman

Semi auto Lee-Enfield? They made two, the British Howell and the South African Rieder. There was also the New Zealand-made Charlton, which was actually full auto.

There were also cartridge firing LeMats, a centerfire model in 11mm French Army or 12mm French Navy and 20 gauge. The earlier pinfire model was in 12mm and 14mm muzzle-loading shotgun.

The Charlton reminds me the Madsen Lmg with that big magazine.

Well, the Madsen had a top-feeding mag, but yeah, I can definately see what you mean.

Oh, and a modern handgun chambered in 7.62mm Tok. Glock or SIG Sauer can't get on this?

repro of a type 1 ak47
http://www.imfdb.org/images/a/a0/AK-47.jpg

What would be the point?

Eh, so us Americans could get ahold of one? Trying to get an old school Russian AK in America is insanely difficult if not impossible. If we could get them, we would be shooting a piece of history every time it was fired, or at the very least it could be mounted on a wall.

Now a 7.62mm Tokarev Glock or SIG, that doesn't make sense to me. What would be the point of that?

Surplus ammo is really cheap, like 10 cents a round. It's corrosive though. But after all the surplus dried up, prices would be the same as any other round. What would be the point then. I thought about picking up a case of 1200 rounds, even though I don't currently have a pistol chambered in that round.

Without a dealer's liscense, owning more than a 1000 rounds of one type of ammunition is considered owning an arsenal, which is apparantly illegal. At least in NY anyways.

That sucks for New Yorkers. I like to keep at least 500 rounds each for most of my calibers. The only exception being .357 magnum, too costly.

I just bought a RIA 1911 in .38 Super, it comes with 900 rounds of FMJ and 250 HP. The ammo and 8 spare mags alone is worth the $650 I paid for everthing.

We used to buy 5x that much in one go, just for the AR's

more than 1000? Hell, 2 bulk packs of 22 is more than that.

10 cents a round? I didn't realize it was that cheap. It's still surplus and may not run well in guns that aren't surplus as well. 9mm is also roughly 20 cents a round, and you now have the most common cartridge on the planet and dozens upon dozens of different loads to use. If you want to pinch pennies, buy a Glock 17 and get a .22 conversion kit. Or just buy a .22 pistol to begin with. A current production gun in a cartridge like 7.62 Tok is just counterproductive.

That's weak about ammunition in NY. I've had more than a thousand rounds on more than one occasion, and it wasn't that much, most of it was .22 ammo. Guess that makes me a violent crazy murderer, at least in New York's eyes. Oregon represent!

Well, except for the fact that 7.62mm Tokarev pushes a bullet to 1700 FPS and will penetrate soft body armor. The round has excellent killing power in general, and as far as I'm concerned is the best military handgun chambering ever made. I'd have carried my Tokarev in Afghanistan if they'd let me!

I looked up the 1700 FPS and goddamn, I knew they were hot but not that hot. I still think I'd rather have a 9mm or .45 but that is definitely worth noting.

The tokarev is just availible with cheap ammo and has a cool muzzle blast, i want it as a recreational gun (i wouldnt use it for sel defense due to the lack of quality defensive ammo.)

An polymer framed 1911 style pistol with an internal safety and single action hammer, mag capacity would be 17 rounds of 9mm. It would also be fitted with a dual recoil spring.

I'm the one who suggested the modern pistol in 7.62 Tok, and I thought someone who wanted to enjoy cheap, powerful ammunition shouldn't have to settle for a gun designed in the thirties and built to communist-bloc standards.

Okay, I didn't think about what would happen when the supply of cheap surplus ammo would dry up, but it'll be fun while it lasts.

I'd also like to see someone like RIA bring back the Colt 1903/1908 Pocket Hammerless. And maybe even update it to 9x19mm. It's a nice and elegant CC pistol, one that doesn't look all plastic-y.

Naw, you know who should bring them back? Colt. They make some of the dumbest decisions with regard to their civilian sales and bringing back any of their old pistols would be a step in the right direction.