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k9870 04-23-2009 12:25 AM

Gunmaster, any particular reason you'd carry a DA/SA in condition one? Personally, I would just do hammer down no safety. Condition one is for SAO guns.

Yournamehere 04-23-2009 12:43 AM

He's a hardcore 1911 guy, so he likes to do things with guns that he'd do with a 1911. My advice, just carry a 1911. If you can train yourself to use the gun and disengage the safety, and you trust that safety, use the thing, though.

MT2008 04-23-2009 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 2175)
Gunmaster, any particular reason you'd carry a DA/SA in condition one? Personally, I would just do hammer down no safety. Condition one is for SAO guns.

Well, some people do prefer SA trigger pull even if they have a DA/SA gun. Just having the option of carrying either Condition One or hammer down is nice.

As far as Taurus' customer service, I thought they were known for good customer service because of the Lifetime Warranty? I never bothered to take advantage of it when I still had my PT92, but that's the impression I've had. I do know that they seem very responsive to customer feedback on their forum.

k9870 04-23-2009 02:30 AM

Taurus is lifetime, even if you are not original owner, so used tauruses are generally a good buy. As for condition one, i basically need a single action trigegr, but i can deal with one round of da if it makes it quicker to draw and fire.

MT2008 04-23-2009 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunmaster45 (Post 2167)
I wish the PT92 had stepping on the trigger guard curve though, sometimes I find myself resting my finger their. I don't know were that type of grip stands today, I only see people like Bruce Willis hold the guns like that now.

The people who use that style grip and mostly those who have really big hands. Then it makes sense because the pistol's handle might not fit your hand so well when you're trying to cram all four fingers around it.

I don't have big hands, and the Taurus PT92 is a big gun anyway, so I never used to shoot mine that way. I have tried that style grip with sub-compact Glocks and other pistols of similar size, and can see the advantages it has.

Gunmaster45 04-23-2009 10:58 AM

I have average sized hands, so I usually rest my left pointer finger under the trigger guard, but I once held a Walther P22, and I've never had that grip feel so natural before.

And for k9870, I prefer single action trigger pulls because I'm better used to the single action trigger pull, while some double actions catch me by surprise and fire earlier than expected, some later. I think I'll just continue to use a 1911 as a sidearm and keep a PT92 at home for fun. I really want the P-14/Colt, but I really want to dish out the cash for Crimson Trace laser grips. Do they make those for Para-Ordnance guns?

Yournamehere 04-23-2009 04:51 PM

I could have sworn I saw some CTC grips for a P14 but don't quote me on that.

My buddy James put it a good way.

"In a heated situation, you're not gonna hit shit anyway, the first shot is just the one that's gonna make 'em duck."

So, double or single, the chances of you hitting someone with your first round are slim, unless you are Front Sight trained or something radical like that. Once they hear a bang though, they're either pissing themself and trying to get to their gun (which is probably illegal, damn criminals) or just pissing themself while trying to get out of there.

I'm not saying that you should fire in the air to make noise, that's stupid. I'm just saying hit or miss, the first round always does something. Like the starter gun in a race, only instead of a race, the starter gun is just being fired more. Might not be the most serious or correct way of looking at it, but it makes sense from a certain standpoint.

Clutch 04-23-2009 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunmaster45 (Post 2186)
I have average sized hands, so I usually rest my left pointer finger under the trigger guard, but I once held a Walther P22, and I've never had that grip feel so natural before.

And for k9870, I prefer single action trigger pulls because I'm better used to the single action trigger pull, while some double actions catch me by surprise and fire earlier than expected, some later. I think I'll just continue to use a 1911 as a sidearm and keep a PT92 at home for fun. I really want the P-14/Colt, but I really want to dish out the cash for Crimson Trace laser grips. Do they make those for Para-Ordnance guns?

Walthers fit hands GREAT. I've handled a P99 and have yet to really come across a gun that fit as well as that gun did. Maybe a Beretta 92FS, but even that took some time (imperceptibly short, but still...) to get a feel for. I haven't shot one yet, but I'd imagine that it's all aces in that category too...

Excalibur 04-23-2009 06:42 PM

I'm starting to really like Springfield XDs, I got my eye on a .45 duty model

MT2008 04-23-2009 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 2190)
I'm starting to really like Springfield XDs, I got my eye on a .45 duty model

I found that model's grip to be too wide for my hand. I have trouble reaching the mag release when I hold it normally. Unless you have big hands, I'd avoid the XD45.

Yournamehere 04-23-2009 07:12 PM

I used and enjoyed it, and it was incredibly accurate. I like the 5" model too, of course the gun itself is just the American made Glock series with a few other design details stuffed in there. Still neat gun. I've been really wanting to get a Glock 17 or 19 2nd Gen lately. I feel like I need a safe action 9 now after reading a buncha stuff.

ManiacallyChallenged 04-23-2009 10:17 PM

I have fairly large hands with fairly long fingers, and as a result I find it hard to follow the most typical advice with regard to grip positions(handguns anyway).

People tend to do things with their thumbs that I could not hope to replicate in a million years.

Gunmaster45 04-23-2009 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 2188)
My buddy James put it a good way.

"In a heated situation, you're not gonna hit shit anyway, the first shot is just the one that's gonna make 'em duck."

So, double or single, the chances of you hitting someone with your first round are slim, unless you are Front Sight trained or something radical like that. Once they hear a bang though, they're either pissing themself and trying to get to their gun (which is probably illegal, damn criminals) or just pissing themself while trying to get out of there.

I'm not saying that you should fire in the air to make noise, that's stupid. I'm just saying hit or miss, the first round always does something. Like the starter gun in a race, only instead of a race, the starter gun is just being fired more. Might not be the most serious or correct way of looking at it, but it makes sense from a certain standpoint.

I've trained myself based on professional insite to use two forms of shooting.

1. If the target is close to mid-range, I square off (feet parted equally), draw the pistol, hug it to the chest, extend my arms so the gun is eye level, touch the trigger, press (extend, touch, press). You'd be amazed how well this technique works if you want to shoot something fast.

2. If the target is farther away, step forward with my non-dominant (left) leg, extend my arms, use the sights to full advantge, squeeze trigger.

It's a lot easier to show you than explain it in writing, but hopefully you get what I'm saying.

You can never trust that he'll miss and that you will scare him, I'd whole-heartedly rather hit him before he even gets a CHANCE to miss.

Yournamehere 04-24-2009 12:56 AM

I'm not saying he's gonna shoot first, I'm saying you should probably shoot first. Of course you don't give him a chance to miss, this isn't a 18th century duel. Also, you say all that gobbledy gook right now with the safety of the internets, but at 15-16 years old, in a real gunfight, you're probably not gonna have the coordination to do all that in a quick motion. No offense intended, I would lose my coordination too. Also, like I said, that's not a professional thought, that's a realistic thought. It's not the best way, it's just probably the way it'll go down, unless you are TRAINED SUPER HEAVILY ALL CAPS BLAH BLAH BLAH.

Excalibur 04-24-2009 02:53 AM

Dont forget about shooting targets and shooting a person. It's a real difference experience. For one thing, targets dont shoot back and they arent alive. When you shoot a real person for whatever reason, it'll affect you.

Gunmaster45 04-24-2009 11:01 AM

Well, if I ever get in a gun fight, I'll let you know how I do :D. I'm aware there is an incredible difference between a target and a man shooting back. But without experiance, I can never really know for sure how I'd react. It's not like you can practice shooting people to steady your nerves.

Excalibur 04-24-2009 06:28 PM

But practice shooting targets and hone your movements will help nonetheless. And it's best to visualize that you are shooting a person to get it in your mind so if it happens, you know what to do.

zzang1847 09-11-2009 05:15 AM

little experience, but sure about this
 
I've only fired two guns.... One is PT series(i don't remember its serial number....But i am sure that it is PT) from Taurus, which is copy and re-designing of Beretta 92 series, and the other is Beretta's Cx4 "Storm" carbine...

Personally....I really like STORM becuase it hits well, manages to fire well...and it is kind of reliable firearm.

Dangerman_1973 11-04-2009 12:49 PM

M16A2
MP5
MP7
P90
Desert Eagle
SPAS-12

Markost 11-06-2009 04:22 PM

Ruger 10/22; FM Isleņa:

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9515/imagen1tz.th.jpg

Mauser 1909 MA, 7,65x54 (i found that bayonet at u$s100 a month ago):

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6274/p4290125y.jpg http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/p...jpg/1/w640.png

and, of course, Glock 17.

Jcordell 11-07-2009 02:34 PM

Smith & Wesson revolvers. Especially pre-war (WWII) models. But I like all N-frames. I guess I favor the Model 27/28 over all though.

Webley revolvers.

Lugers.

Lee Enfield rifles.

Winchester lever actions and Model 1897 and 1912 shotguns.

sucker 11-27-2009 08:30 PM

Hey can I ask you guys about Colt M1911A1?

Are they still manufactured or all the pistols are from old manufacture periods?
I mean the standart M1911A1's like this one:
http://i49.tinypic.com/kdvhih.jpg

or...

this one ;)

http://i46.tinypic.com/121z66r.jpg

Yournamehere 11-27-2009 10:36 PM

Of course they stll manufacture 1911s! There are several dozen companies that make them at that! Got mine right here, dated 2006.

AdAstra2009 11-27-2009 10:51 PM

I think he means M1911A1 style, not just 1911.

sucker 11-27-2009 11:04 PM

yeah I dont mean something like this:
http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/w...lt45-again.jpg
wchich is clearly some kind of colt modification gun, but I mean the standart, 7-bullet, M1911A1 like Seagal uses in 90% of his movies :)


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Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 9132)
Of course they stll manufacture 1911s! There are several dozen companies that make them at that! Got mine right here, dated 2006.

Can you put here a picture of your 1911 please?

Yournamehere 11-27-2009 11:40 PM

It's on my page on IMFDB at the bottom with my other guns.

FirearmFan 11-28-2009 08:35 AM

My favorite gun that I've actually shot. OOHH tough question. I love them all so much.

Semi auto pistol: 1911 is the easy first choice. The XD, the M&P, and the Px4 Storm are close seconds.

Revolvers: Prob the Ruger GP100. Although the 4" S&W .500 Magnum was fun too.

Shotgun: I'm a big proponent of the Mossberg 500 series.

Semi auto rifles: The AR-15 is number one with the AK and M1 Garand a close second. The Barrett M82 .50BMG is very fun too.

Full Auto: So many to love here. HK UMP .45, short barreled M4, AK-47, M249 SAW, Glock 18

That's prob the best I can narrow it down.

sucker 11-28-2009 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 9138)
It's on my page on IMFDB at the bottom with my other guns.

I'm sorry man. I know I'm a total noob but... I can't find it.
Give me the link please :P

Yournamehere 11-30-2009 12:06 AM

http://www.imfdb.org/images/1/12/1911WideSpur.png

There ya go newbie. The hammer is not factory, and I took it out a while ago anyhow. It's a Series 70 style rip, and not so much a WWII model.

Markost 11-30-2009 12:53 AM

Nice 1911 YNH, in some years (maybe) i´ll buy an original 1911 or a Ballester-Molina:

http://s3.postimage.org/10NJU9.jpg

paraordnance 11-30-2009 02:15 AM

I've shot a Beretta 92FS, Glock 17 and an H&K P30. I like the P30 the best.

sucker 11-30-2009 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 9173)
http://www.imfdb.org/images/1/12/1911WideSpur.png

There ya go newbie. The hammer is not factory, and I took it out a while ago anyhow. It's a Series 70 style rip, and not so much a WWII model.

Oh Lawdy! Is Eye in heaven?! ;)

Thank you man for the foto. It's one sexy Colt you've got there. 7 bullets in the mag?

Yournamehere 11-30-2009 11:12 PM

First of all, it's not a Colt, it's a Springfield. Colt made the first 1911s, but they are not responsible for the design, so to call any and all 1911s a Colt is inaccurate. You should only refer to a 1911 as a Colt if it is in fact one that was manufactured by Colt.

Second, I have two 7 round magazines and four 8 round magazines. I don't know which I had in the gun at the time.

k9870 11-30-2009 11:19 PM

Funny thing is most GI 1911s were made by SA (the old SA, not the new one) and colt only made a few. Issued 1911s were a mixed bag. Remington Rand, singer, ithaca.....

Nyles 12-01-2009 07:54 AM

Actually, SA never made many 1911s, they're very rare today. Colt made most (about 240,000), followed by Remington-UMC (21,677), with Springfield a distant third (50,000 ordered but significantly less made due to their heat treating issues and concentrating on the 1903 rifle) and NAA an absolute last at 100. 1911A1s are much the same, with Colt being the most common, followed by Remington-Rand, then Ithaca, US&S and Singer.

sucker 12-01-2009 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyles (Post 9188)
Colt made most (about 240,000),

Yeah, I wanna ask about ORIGINAL design.
Is Colt, Springfield, etc still manufacturing CLASSIC looking (like Yournamehere's one) guns.
I mean model 1911a1, not models based on 1911 like Kimber Pro II which is obviously different from original design but based on it.

(Sorry for my poor english, I'm from Europe)

Excalibur 12-01-2009 05:13 PM

I'm sure they do

predator20 12-01-2009 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sucker (Post 9193)
Yeah, I wanna ask about ORIGINAL design.
Is Colt, Springfield, etc still manufacturing CLASSIC looking (like Yournamehere's one) guns.
I mean model 1911a1, not models based on 1911 like Kimber Pro II which is obviously different from original design but based on it.

(Sorry for my poor english, I'm from Europe)

Springfield makes the G.I. and Mil Spec models. Colt reintroduced the Government model. (I think it's really their 80 series 1911 with different roll marks) They're all the plain jain style. No front serrations on the slide, etc. Many others like Rock Island Armory make them too.

BroncoBob 12-02-2009 12:46 AM

I happen to be A 45 fanatic.Being an former Marine,of the Vietnam era,
I feel there is no better round for stopping bad guy's in there tracks.I've
studied the results of what happens to the human body when hit with
various rounds, and the 45 acp is hands down is the most devastating
all the energy is expended in side the body.When someone is hit with a 45
the doctor will tell the next of kin that he might get better,but he won't get well.

Excalibur 12-02-2009 01:04 AM

ok is this guy a bot?


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