I have great sympathy for all the innocent muslims being killed by drone and wrongful contacts...I have compassion for the people in this country that will steal for food and take big risk to support there family...but i dont give a shit for murders and rapist and those are the only two kind that would ever bother a guy like me and my wife.

Your fantasy scenario of a sexually deranged cannibal breaking into your house for you to heroically vanquish in front of your wife is far from the reality of how these things happen.

Guys, we do NOT need to debate this in a topic about movies.

Do you even watch the News...in one of the Caronlina's the two men broke into a house raped the wife and two daughters and then burned the house down with them still alive in it....So Fantasy?...not really...Reality?...very much so. my job is focused around self defense and every aspect of it. I am a concealed weapon holder and i conceal everywhere i go...I understand the logic of self defense and what it take to survive...do you? or do you think bad guys only live in the mid east and in movies.

Are you Dale Gribble?

Oops you have a point there, can we split and move this thread?

Personal hero of mine ;)

Your wife cheats on you too?

on me?...no reason to...and she's just as trained on hand guns as I.

Your hero is an incompetent idiot who's wife cheats on him and always makes bad situations worse?

I guess you guys are unaware of the term..."Sarcasm". I just personally got tired of going back and forth with the mustache

That's what makes Dale so funny.

From Lethal Weapon 4

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Dale carries a glock.....you know thats just too boring. He needs a SIG.

I agree. BTW k9870, did you get those messages I sent you?

We are watching American President in Government today for no particular reason

Targets (1968) Very anti-gun. When it was first released a so-called documentary about the scourge of firearms in the U.S. would play first. Not sure if they have that documentary on the DVD release.

The movie was something of a quicky designed to cash in on Charles Whitman and the murders of Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr. Pretty cynical actually.

How about the movie 44 Minutes: The North Hollywood Shootout during the gun store scene the cop actors had a line about "Why are people allowed to have these things?" When getting guns powerful enough to penetrate armor

Speaking of burn notice Last couple episodes michael has been carrying what looks like an HK, wheres the SIG?

I don't know if that's anti-gun or just something a moderate, which most people are, would say. On one extreme, you have people who only think police and the military should have guns, and on the other, you have those who think there shouldn't be any restrictions. I would think that most people fall somewhere in between.

To me, an anti-gun movie would be one that attacks the very concept of civilian firearms ownership.

Possibly H&K is paying more? Just a guess. It's all about product placement.

I haven't seen it but apparently in "Untraceable" they find out that a certain character is the murderer because he has two Assault Weapons registered to himself.

Came across another shining jewel. The 2000 film "Militia" Dean Cain plays an ATF agent and in an argument with a defector from a militia Dean Cain's character says that he does not enjoy using guns in his job as an ATF agent and that it is merely a tool. He also implies that you have to be some kind of sick twisted freak to be interested in guns and to enjoy using them.

One of us! One of us! One of us!

That ATF agent is stupid. Guns are a joy to people, except for libtards (I'm liberal, yet enjoy guns, so I don't count as one).

Despising guns and gun owners is not the only thing that can make somebody a "libtard." :D

I don't care about how my health care is runned, I think the ACLU are a bunch of nutjobs, I hate most conservative political commentators (except for Bill O'Reilly), and I believe in ManBearPig. Plus I like hybirds since they look sleek.

Are you sure you're not a moderate?

Hybrids look lame, They were desighned to look different simply because the people who drive them want to rub it in everyone elses face.

Why cant hybrids just be a hybrid form of a standard car that looks the exact same?

Those smug douche bags have to rub it in our faces. Can't they just all move to San Fransisco and join their own kind?

There are plenty of hybrids like that. The top seller in hybrids is the Prius, but it's followed by the hybrid Civic, hybrid Camry, hybrid Highlander, and hybrid Escape.

The Prius floats. My father's Uncle Fred almost got swept away during a flood because of it

Prius has poor rear visibility due to high trunk and narrow window.

I forgot to mention that there's an episode of "The Closer" where Kyra Sedgewick's squad is trying to track down a group of teenagers who are plotting a mass shooting. The teenagers have acquired M4s, body armor, propane tanks, and detonators. What's seriously retarded, though, is that at one point in the episode, the squad goes back to the mall where they got the propane tanks, and Sedgewick says that she wants to check out a sporting goods store at the mall where she thinks they bought their guns. In other words, the show is implying that kids can get M4s at their local mall sporting goods store!

Ben41 told me on the discussion page for the show that I was mistaken about this, but I watched the episode again, and I don't believe I am. I consider the promotion of such ignorance to be quite "anti-gun".

Sporting goods store? That carries guns? In a mall? Bullshit

Didn't they have one in the original Dawn of the Dead?

I have a sporting goods store in my mall and they have guns in the "Hunting" section.

I bought my Mossberg from a Dick's sporting goods store. But I don't know any sporting goods stores that carry evil black assault weapons, and obviously, buying a full-auto M4 is something that would be impossible.

Were these "M4s" full auto in the episode? But let's put that aside. Say a sporting goods store DID sell AR-15s and they looked like M4s, as in stock, carrying handle, receivers, and barrel length being close enough. I don't think stores are allowed to sell anything shorter than 16in barrels. And let's say this fictional store just sells a standard 16in barrel length. These are teenagers. They couldn't have legally bought rifles unless they are 18, which I am assuming the episode is implying they are not and if they showed the "M4s" shooting full auto, how many teens know how to convert civilian rifles to full auto? And body armor? Did the episode say how they get those?

And you don't just "buy" detonators for anything, unless they took some from construction grade explosive and even then, that's a stretch.

Also were they supposed to be rich kids? I could barely afford gas to put in my car in high school. It was way cheaper back then too, 10 years ago. Of course I think minimum wage was around $5.15.

Yes. One of the boys (the last one they don't catch beforehand) uses an M4 in a mall shooting at the end of the episode, and it's fired on full-auto. Of course, despite the fact that they have only their sidearms, they still manage to take him down.

Of course not. A rifle with a barrel under 16" (or 26" overall length) would be an SBR, and therefore regulated by the NFA. The M4s used in the episode of "The Closer" had 14.5" barrels.

I think one of them was 18. I don't remember.

No. I'm assuming that the idiots who wrote the episode figured that they could have got the vests from the sporting goods store, too.

Middle class, maybe upper-middle class. Not like filthy rich.