As to the election, we have a republican governor, he beat out an independent candidate who actually moved to china to run a business there and actively was involved in outsourcing jobs, while claiming to live here. That guy is not who we need hopefully the new governor vetos tax increases (our state is the highest tax burden per capita.)

we got the casino authorized finally, and its right near 2 cities with high unemployment so will offer jobs to those people.

Better yet, do what k9870 said whilst also using the SpecOps guys. That way the cartels are attacked on 2 fronts

Friggin' awesome

Gotta find who you want, a cop whos family was killed by cartels wont join one, a soldier whos neighborhood is under a cartel's control will want to see it freed. There are good people out there, not everyone can be turned.

I find it a litle hard to trust Mexican soldiers mainly because there is a huge problem with them going AWOL and working for the cartels. Hell, the Zetas were formed when a Mexican special forces unit deserted in the 90's and joined the drug trade

You cant go throught he normal ranks, look at brazil, drug lords are powerful as hell and BOPE still wipes the floor with them.

BTW, your old sig line was better.

I'm in the process of thinging up a new one

Wow!...that is a lot of ignorance and misguided information for one paragraph.

One of my school's principals used to work for Houston PD narcotics division for around 5 years. I get alot my info from him, my cousin who works in the federal prison system, my uncles who used to be addicts (pot and pain pills) but have gotten clean, and my friend who lives in the North End of Beaumont, who has been around dealers all his life

How many people where killed by violence this year over transporting and selling alcohol?...Now, how many people where killed by violence over alcohol while it was illegal? And the majority of real pot smokers would curb stomp a dealer if they got weed laced with anything.

No, many dont even notice till its too late. Legalization probably would allow fda regulation of weed to make it safe, but poorer people would still go to the streets to get the cheaper crap. Which would be laced. Even if weed was legal most dealers should be tried harshly for the shit they pull to get people onto hard stuff.

I know "real" pot smokers and they are too lazy to pick up a remote to change the channel on their TV, much less curbstomp somebody

and even more ignorance. Someone watched That 70's Show and now they are a expert on pot smokers...yeah "to lazy to pick up a remote" now thats funny...it funny when you steroe type groups of people and get your bits from Cheech and Chong movies...I guess your all for prohibition too...i bet you think all beer drinkers beat their wives and have confederate flags on their trucks.

Did I just not explain how my relatives were heavy pot users? Also, quite a few douches at my school smoke pot as well. Fuckers are too lazy to do work and won't fight unless they have 10 friends with them

In fact, drugs are becoming a big problem in my community. Just a few months ago a guy at my school got shot in the kidney over some pot and is only alive because his friend fired back

I knew people who would just blaze up between classes and failed everything because they thought it was cool. Sure some people do it socially but a lot are just dumbasses. On 4/20 whenever i wa sworking it was funny to see the people calling in sick, so it was busier and i had to deal with busier work since there lazy asses were off smokin weed.

My apologies, i did not realize you were a student. I'll wait until you have a few more years of life exprience before conversing on matters of true liberties, steroetyping, and general real world events.

I had to do 3 people's and 2 weeks worth of work in 2 days because I was assigned a group project with some potheads who barely ever showed up

students are the biggest pot users around. This is my final post on the issue, weve had threads derailed into drug war statements before and it lways ends n closing. BTW, i started the thread so i can dictate that this was a election thread.

Look who's talking about stereotyping, Mr. "since you aren't old enough to vote, you apparently are not capable of knowing things"

If I wouldn't have revealed that I was a student, you would have never figured it out

The Zetas are former mexican SpecOps agents.

I sadi that earlier.

Alright, discussion over

My boss said "Tobacco, biggest killer of productivity in the world"

I think the same thing can be said about marijuana.

Seriously. Last time I had to do work out on the deer lease with my cousin, we had to stop constantly so he could smoke. Turned 3 hours of work into 4

My company banned tobacco use on company grounds a few years ago. They used to have a screened-in gazebo on company grounds (the "butt hut") where workers can go outside and smoke, but now, they have to walk all the way to their cars, drive off the lot, and either find a space to stop and smoke, or as my former supervisor did, light up a cigarette and drive until it's finished, light up another one, and head back. I work for a health care company, so trying to limit or eliminate tobacco use makes sense, and they're certainly well within their rights to do so, but now it's just counterproductive. A cigarette break that used to take ten minutes now takes twenty, AND smokers are now using up gasoline as well. (Doubly ironic as the company is spending millions "going green.) At least they offer real employees deals on patches and nicotine gum, but contractors and vendors like me just have to deal with it. I know they're trying to cut future tobacco-related health care expenses, but I'd like to see how the numbers jibe with the lost productivity.

Cigarettes actually kill people, stoned out failures can still work at Carl's Jr., dead people can't work period.

And shooter here's some knowledge for ya.

In California, marijuana is de facto legal. Everyone who smokes it buys it in a store, all you have to do is pay a doctor for a single visit to obtain a recommendation and you have instant access to "nonprofit collectives" which are really for profit businesses. You can buy marijuana as is, or baked into cookies, the government does not grow it. There were something like 8 people on the old federal medical marijuana program before it was canceled and I think only one of them is even alive anymore. Exactly one human being smoking government grown pot. And California's privately grown pot (homegrown here in Cali, not imported from Mexico) is not laced with PCP or meth, nobody expects it to be, nobody is "used to" that.

As for kids getting shot, simple consequence of drugs being illegal. Blah blah but you've heard that all before.

And your death penalty stance? Laughable, especially coming from somebody with as much inside information on the innerworkings of government as you. Up the risk, up the stakes, up the profits. It will never go away. NEVER. Hitler couldn't kill all the Jews, you can't kill all the smugglers. All you'd be doing is annihilating a few impoverished individuals while simultaneously fattening the wallets of the people in charge. Rich powerful people always find a way out and around, always.

That is why you destroy the people in charge as well

Can we please get back on track?

Lets start with, who voted, and wa sthere cool election results where you live.

I think the election went pretty fair. the republicans get the House of representatives and the democrats get the Senate.

and the senate is more evened up instead of overwhelmingly democratic. And my new governor is a republican, he was tea party backed and runs on a platform of reduced spending and more job creation, which is what this state needs.

Even year elections are more important (Especially this year, new Senator and new Governor here, as well as House and State legislature) but off year elections are more quirky. Back in 2007, County Coroner was on the ballot. And both parties ran candidates. I actually had to verify with someone at the polling place that the County Coroner was indeed, in charge of cutting up bodies. I wish I had gotten some campaign material, it'd be interesting to see what positions they have.

I went a perfect 5 for 5 in election results.

All I can say is, I hope that the people who went out and bought six new AR-15s (for over $1K each) and 1,000,000 rounds of ammo the day after the 2008 election feel like retards now.

It was soooo obvious back in '08 that this administration was going to piss off the American public with healthcare and failed economic reforms a LONG time before they got around to even thinking about gun control, and that Congressional turnover in 2010 would destroy their ability to dictate domestic policy. And yet I still saw a million people on gun message boards who were going into hysterics and swearing that we'd all be surrendering our "evil-looking black rifles" and 30-round mags to the ATF by this time. I'm still bitter about all the morons who told me that I was "naive" for thinking otherwise.

Barack Obama may prove to be the greatest gun salesman of all time.

I'm am sort of mad but sort of happy with those guys. They made it way easier to get guns like S&W 3rd Gen autos and older, rare gun because they were being skipped over in favor of AR's. However, I do not like the fact that it was and still is so difficult to get certain calibers

Did ya'll have to use the electronic voting machines or were you able to do a paper ballot? They were going to use the voting machines here but they were destroyed in a fire "in an accident" that was in no way an arson

Do you live in Mad Max?

I don't mean to veer this threat off course anymore, but I just saw this on CNN.

http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktl...2.story?hpt=T2

Oh, and 83 degrees and sunny in LA? In November? The next time anyone from Cali complains about gun control or the state of finances there, I'll pull out my world's tiniest violin for them.

Very well said...i had the same opinion back then as well...Obama's team has done more for gun rights then bush ever did...but i did enjoy all the business last year and people were paying in cash...pure craziness.

I just went for a walk wearing all black, what was I thinking... :(