The bolt was gone. We used up alot of our .223 that time too, so I haven't even been able to shoot the AR other than like 2 mags a year ago

Well the weight of it without the bolt is hard to notice that it's missing. You could have checked it before packing it up with you. One racking of the charging handled and you can tell the bolt is missing or is it even possible to pull the handle back correctly without the bolt.?

My father packed it while I was at school, and I sort of just picked it up, put a mag in without thinking and then noticed it didn't even have the charging handle

Well the first thing you would notice is lack of a charging handle.

Wow.... that is pretty fail.........

Yup. It's embarassing as hell, but it's the only fuckup I've ever had with a firearm

I have this friend who's a wannabe Marine/Blackwater contractor who claimed that the AK-47 would be the ideal weapon because you can use ANY caliber bullet in it.

...He also claims that the reason for sawing the barrel of shotguns down is so that it will have more killing power and spread.

I guess he was confusing the AK with the AR-15 because the AR-15 can use pretty much any caliber because if there isn't a special upper made for the AR-15, someone out there is making it right now. Just last week, I read about a new upper so it can fire a .50 BMG in bolt action.

nope, think stupider. He actually claims that you can feed any caliber bullet into the same AK-47 w/o modifications.

Do the world a favor and remove him from the gene pool. Dare him to prove his point with a .50 BMG.

Or a 20mm, even better :D

Your dumb friend is half right, shortening a shotgun barrel would increase the spread. But that's about all it would do.

AR-15 uppers are getting crazy. I saw one that allows you to use muzzle loading black powder rounds, and one that turns it into a crossbow. Following this line of reasoning, it won't be long before we have an upper that hurls a rock.

The crossbow and muzzle loading uppers have been out for years. Recently I've been looking at the .50 BMG, bolt action and the AR57 uppers

I saw the AR57 upper at a gun show a year or two ago, and I was puzzled by why it would exist. You trade in the compactness of a P90 and the economy of 5.56mm for a bigger gun that shoots more expensive and harder to obtain ammo?

A guy at the range had a .458 SOCOM upper and he let me fire off a round. That at least makes more sense than the AR57.

The same sense on who would want a muzzle loader AR-15 or a crossbow upper on an AR-15 lower.

Some places may only allow black powder hunting or you may want to just shoot bolts. It may not make a WHOLE LOT of sense, but there's still a purpose. I can't figure out the niche of the AR57.

Maybe it's for people who don't like the look and feel of the P90 and if they have the money, they get the AR57 for shits and giggles.

It looks pretty cool, except for the empty magazine well.

I think it's pretty awesome that they used the magazine well as the new ejection port.

I didn't catch that but yeah that makes sense. What did they do with the old ejection port?

e: nevermind I just saw it from the right.

Still on the 5.56x45mm upper receiver that was swapped out to install the AR 57 upper receiver.

The AK-47 can't jam because its round has an anti-jam mechanism built into it.

"Because people will buy it" perhaps? :D

Scoped shotguns in Video games.

Not really a story, and there's nothing wrong with scoping a slug gun.

A scope for a shotgun even if it's slug is useless. A slug does not have the range to require a scope. A red dot maybe or just better irons.

Then why does Remington sell that Slug barrel/Telescopic Scope combo package for the Remington 870?

Plus, video games don't usually use slugs.

......wh-what.....what is this I don't even........

Ive met so many people who claim a military ak47 can use .223 ammo. Now i saw a test of this, the round fired, but didnt hit the target, due to bore difference, it overexpanded in chamber, got stuck, and had to be field stripped to remove. this shows that even if it can fire the round it is not acombat advantage at all.

A slug, going out of a smooth barrel has a range of ~50 yards. A slug going out of a rifled barrel can range from 80-100 yards, depending on the quality of the gun firing it and the ammunition used.

I know for a fact what you're saying is wrong, because I live in a shotgun-only hunting region, where scoped slug guns DOMINATE in the hunter's market. I myself personally use a Browning A-Bolt with a 3-9x scope using Lightfield Sabot slugs, and have taken deer at 80+ yards before, without adjusting for drop. While an A-Bolt is one of the most accurate shotguns you can (or rather could) buy, even a semi-auto slug gun can do decently at those ranges.

In fact, my craziest story to tell you is last season, using a smoothbore Browning A5 16 gauge with a 4x scope, I took down a button buck at I think 70-80 yards. I wasn't aware the gun was smoothbore (my dad let me use it as my A-Bolt wasn't sighted in yet) and assuming it had the capability, fired on the deer. It hit the shoulder and killed it, but if what you said was correct, that'd be impossible, which it isn't. /rant

It's to my understanding that most uses for a shotgun isn't at ranges that would require a scope.

GM's right, slugs have more range than you think. I've seen consistent slug hits at 50+ yards roughly, and even at 50 yards you can benefit from magnification. If you can push a shotgun slug out father than that, you can use more optical zoom, and you'll probably need it too.

Frankly I need to find a new 20" barrel for my eight shot mossberg as I want to swap out the ghost ring for an optic sight. Just a simple red dot as I can't afford a 590 with an EOTech on top of the reciver.

To load an inline muzzleloader, you take out the breech plug, stick in the bullet and pellets, then screw in the plug behind it. Some people are apparently unclear as to what a muzzle is.

Not so much an incorrect fact as just general stupidity, I had 3 people come into the shop today having loaded and tried to fire the wrong ammo in their guns. .22 LR in a .22 WMR, .17 HMR in a .22 WMR, and 7mm Mauser in a 7mm Mag. I should point out that in Canada you have to take a safety course to even get a firearms permit, and the course covers not doing that.

My grandfather accidentally tried to stick a .22 Magnum in the .22 Long Rifle cylinder for his Ruger Single Six. It took pliers and a lot of determination to get it out

This was a few years ago, when I knew of guns from what I've seen on TV so I didn't even know about clips and mags and I didn't know the difference between a Glock and a 1911 and AKs were the ultimate guns. No offense to AK lovers like YNH.

Anyway, this one piece of story was when I was showing a friend of mine online the new HK416 that came out recently. I said that we should use this in our little online forum fiction we were writing. The configuration I showed had the grenade launcher attached and for some reason, my buddy said "Hey...isn't that the gun from Aliens?" And even back then when I knew next to nothing about guns, I said no and he insisted. It wasn't until I googled images of the Alien Pulse Rifle when he said, the HK416 reminded him of it and I say...what part of this REAL gun.

I also remember other instances of mis-identification with guns cause my friends didn't know better, like during the Peter Jackson King Kong remake, he said the Tommy Guns used were the PPSH, a Russian SMG used during WWII. He was a COD fan at the time. This same friend said the XM8s in XXX: State of the Union were the assault rifles from Halo

My brother won't stop inisiting that Ruger and Luger are the same thing and that the Ruger mark 1-3 pistol series are the same as the Luger P08

[quote=Nyles;21885]To load an inline muzzleloader, you take out the breech plug, stick in the bullet and pellets, then screw in the plug behind it. Some people are apparently unclear as to what a muzzle is.

this is a joke?...right?

Nope. I work at Cabela's, I see and hear all sorts of shit every day. A coworker of mine bought a Remington 700 SPS in .300 RUM and put a Bushnell Banner and Weaver tip-off rings on it.