The idea was that our govt. thought the cubans would rise up to overthrow the government when they saw help coming and noticed they stood a chance, problem is they banded together agianst our forces and attack in superior numbers.

Any one pissed that there isn't going to be a COD: Vietnam because of this? I hope someone makes a Vietnam game that doesn't suck at some point. Maybe the MoH guys will man up and make one, because the CoD series is too far gone

Well looks like MoH is following COD and going modern warfare first. Modern Warfare games is turning into the new WWII of this generation. I'm sick an tired of fighting the Russians or Ultra-nationalists. I wanna go to exotic tropical places and meet new so I can shoot them in the face.

I want a Vietnam game on par with CoD 2. Is it too much to ask?

Apparently it is

SOCOM 5: US Navy SEALS: Vietnam

Epic win right there. SOCOM needs to go back and explore the beginning of the organization it features so prominently.

Not much of a SOCOM fan.

Hopefully black ops changes multiplayer, MW2 just felt like COD4. Not enough change, sure new maps and guns but same old fighting styles and over-focus on balance.

Hell no. I don't own a PS3 and the SOCSM games have always pissed me off

I found some new COD screenshots, but I dint think there's anything new in here. http://kotaku.com/5578311/20-amazing...k-ops-screens/

So, back on this thread again.

The more new stuff I am seeing about this game, the more I am hating for its historical inaccuracy. Nevermind "black ops" shit, it's just a simple research could have saved the developers some time, but I guess they wanted to save time, but just stealing the game animations of the SPAS-12, M4, AUG, FAMAS, and MP5K for their game to save time in development and only put new skins on them.

The weapons in this game is lazy as hell. They took the most used guns from Modern Warfare 2 and put them in this game and to bullshit about how guns that shouldn't exist in the time period, they use the WEAK ass excuse of saying "oh, SOG is like the elite of the elite and they can get guns that aren't even invented yet"

Yeah, what a lame half baked excuse to cover the fact that they are lazy.

Sure, I can understand Spec Ops getting weapons that are not commonly known, or in full production or weapons not adopted yet. Like how the SEALs during the first years of the Vietnam war had the G3 in their hands.

Why cant they use a walther mpk instead of a mp5k, or a CARL Gustav m45, and why not have a g3 instead of an aug....definitely could have used better choices.

Fixed that for you

The true Spec Ops during vietnam didn´t used the 5,56x45 in their "clandestine" operations (sorry CoD fanboys, no Aug), they used 12 gauge shotguns (not the Spas 12), 9 mm smgs and Hi-Power pistols (they tried to left minimal evidence of U.S. presence in the area, so they used this cartridge)

I heard that some Green Berets used to carry captured AK's

There was a hawaian LURP dressed like a VC with an Ak. Awesome.

Excaliber it wasn't a G3 that the Navy SEALs were useing it was a Harrison Richards T33 witch was a liscenced version of the Heckler & Kock HK33. There is photographic evidence to prove the HK33 was in Navy SEAL hands. While there is a SEAL who says that they used a G3 there are other statements by SEALs and documents that indicate that they were mistaken.

The flattop CAR-15 I can deal with because it's at least plausible for the time period (though I would have modeled the upper on the one used on the 656 platform, if it were up to me... heck, I'd love to have the 656 itself in there instead), but the AUGs, MP5Ks, and stuff are just pissing me off.

But, in retrospect, Medal of Honor isn't looking any better with their infinite ammo pistols.

But, oh well. I've decided to get Uncharted 2 since it's struck my fancy and resurrected the Indiana Jones fan in me. :) CoD4 and MW2 (as well as the other previous gen shooters I have like America's Army and SOCOM) are largely enough for me at the moment.

I know a man who was a serious spec ops member during Vietnam (and I should mention he is a complete badass with three bullet holes in his neck, and a huge scar over his head from getting agent orange poisoning, which he survived due to sheer badassery) and he carried whatever weapon he wanted. He said he spent most of his time roaming around enemy lines (which he prefered and considered safer than being on the allied battlefront, because then if his team was in trouble they could "run like motherfuckers...") and he said he had at different times carried a prototype Armalite rifle (I can't recall the proper make), a cut down M2 Carbine, a stainless steel Detonics pistol, multiple small caliber pistols (he said he prefered small pistols because they were light and killed well when you got up close and popped them in the head) and in one instance he killed someone using an M79 grenade launcher, in which the round failed to detonate and simply shredded the guy on impact. Even after he left service he smithed several custom guns for his pals still in service. Basically the spec ops guys back then used whatever they wanted.

In the 70s he had a custom Colt Commando made for him, which he still has, which is Israeli made, has a 16" barrel, and a colt scope. Really nice weapon, I got to hold it.

Full auto? That guy is the most metal person currently walking the Earth, from the looks of it

Or how other special ops units such as the SASR had weapons like "The Bitch", a F1 SLR with a XM148 grenade launcher and 30 round magazines from the Bren. There's so many interesting variations on weapons during the Vietnam War that it is a bit of a shame the developers decided not just to be lazy about their research, but proud that they retained a bunch of MW2 weapons.

Also, did anyone notice that Drjuki deleted all references to anachronisms on the page and claimed that other users shouldn't mention them since he doesn't care about inaccurate weapons?

Got a picture for us?

I haven't seen him in a while because he was my martial arts teacher and I couldn't go to the class anymore, but I can contact him and see if he'll snap a shot of it for me.

The one standing on the left side of the picture appears to have an M203 instead of an XM148.

Kinda related, but not to Black Ops:

I've been playing through COD4 on Veteran, and while I'm happy to say that I've cleared the campaign, I'm mired in the pit of failure that is Mile High Club. Sweet Jesus, who the fuck thought THAT was a good idea? It's bad enough that you only have a minute to get to the hostage, but your teammates are about as accurate as blind men and the terrorists are a pack of frickin' Terminators.

Well, ain't that a bitch?

It took me a hundred tries and it was a long time ago, but I beat it on Vet ONCE

I beat all of Veteran except that level. It just got too frustrating after 1000 tries. It's more luck than skill to beat it, and I got no luck. haha

SOLUTION: Take COD out of Xbox; play Max Payne

I've no doubt that I'll beat it, I just need to figure out how to get to the damn door without getting shot in the back.

There's nothing more annoying in that level than to see the man that killed you get shot .2 seconds later by your suddenly laser-accurate wingmen. Every time I see that, I just think, "Fuck you guys. Why? Because fuck you guys."

I play COD on PC. Any first person shooter is better on the PC

Success. Don't ask me how I did it, because I'm still trying to figure it out. But I'm happy now. Now that I've unlocked all of the achievements (XBOX 360 here), I'm turning cheats on, going back to that board, and becoming John Rambo.

Saw on a release earlier that the prestige edition is confirmed to have "four additonal zombie maps."

I hope this means theres vc zombies

Just like Shellshock 2! Except it might not suck!