Uses a S&W? Not a minor character or Dirty Harry? Guaranteed death before the third act

In most action movies

1. Bulletproof vests are magical force fields.
2. Shotguns make you fly.
3. Gunshot wounds to the arms, hands, feet, shoulders, or legs are not that serious.
4. "Clips"
5. Poor trigger discipline
6. Poor handgun grips
7. Dual wielding anything is more effective.
8. Richocet sparks (sometimes on wood)
9. Unlimited ammo with no magazines
10. Shooting from the hip with machines guns or rifles.
11. Suppressors on weapons make them completely silent.

This is especially true of Kate Beckinsale's character in Underworld. It was nice to show that, with the exception of the floor shooting scene, Seline's weapons did have an almost correct mag capacity, but where in the hell was she keeping them in that skintight vinyl catsuit? :p

Also, as a rule, all films must have a Beretta 92-series pistol. This doesn't even apply to just the action, adventure, or war genres anymore. ALL films MUST feature one of these. I'm sure you'll see a background death eater character in the new Harry Potter film packing one, and a centurion in the upcoming Ancient Roman epic, The Eagle, will probably have one as part of his kit. :p

i swear in lord of the rings a couple of orks were packing m9s in shoulder holsters.

That's why Sauron was defeated. Not because Frodo dropped the ring into Mt. Doom, but his army was packing craptacular pistols.

The reason the horsemen hate water is that their oversized anchor of a 9mm will amke them sink like a rock

I think that Orc that killed Boromir had a G36C. :D

I suspect Gandalf had a S&W 629 with a 3" barrel hidden in his robe as backup to his staff. Old school you know. :D

Nope, the whole staff was a canegun. I'm guessing that it used some sort of shotgun shell as that staff was taking out orcs left and right.

Look! I found a .45 that was made by Rivendell Gunsmithes:

http://www.dwharris.com/thumb/images/1911_jpg.jpg

I realize your post is partially tongue-in-cheek, but quick FYI: It's not so much a "rule" as a matter of practicality. If you ask any of the movie armorers on here (there are several of them who are IMFDB members), they'll tell you that the Beretta 92F is common in movies because it has a reputation for being extremely reliable with blank ammunition.

Out of curiosity, have you ever handled/fired a Beretta, or are you just echoing Smithy? I still think he's full of crap, and I personally used to own one of those "craptacular" pistols.

They're good enough for the Los Angeles Police Department AND the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department.

The beretta is an ergonomic nightmare for me.

It's not my absolute favorite, but I like the Beretta despite some design flaws.I especially like those big,very visible sights.

Not to mention the United States Army and Marine Corps.

-However the LAPD has actually switched to the Glock 22

The LAPD approves several guns, Beretta 92 series guns being some of them.

More importantly though, ergonomics relative to other designs that aren't necessarily "bad," or a few isolated cases of failure which may be the result of poor maintenance, ammunition or magazines rather than the gun design itself, does not mean the gun suffers from "design flaw" at least not by those reasons. Is a SIG decocker better than the slide mounted setup on the Beretta? Perhaps. Does it make the Beretta's decocking system crap? No. It's arguably not as good, but that doesn't mean it's bad. Frankly I've got no problem decocking my Beretta with one hand, though I'll concede the SIG system is better. Appropriate grip size is also relative, so if you don't like it, that's fine, but again, that doesn't mean the gun is ergonomically poor, it just means other guns are ergonomically superior.

As far as reliability goes, EVERYTHING has the potential to fail, regardless of design. I've seen Berettas fail, I've seen 1911s fail, I've seen AKs fail. It doesn't mean the design is poor (if there are only a few cases that is), but there's something wrong with that particular device or another variable, and most assuredly, for that gun, there are thousands upon thousands more that work just fine.

Berettas are not craptacular pistols, they are good guns with a legacy, and are worthy of our respect, even if their usability is slightly overshadowed by other technology out there. Look at the magazine as half full and not half empty, and don't call something "bad" because something else is more "good". One can be "good" and the other "better" but in that case, the former is not even close to "bad".

A. Beretta grip is large and unconfortable.
B. Slide mounted safety can accidentally turn on when racking slide (yeah, some of us do that over using slide release.)
C. Bigger than a 9mm should be.

A. That is circumstatial to you, and possibly others, but doesn't reflect the gun as a whole, with everyone, and certainly not a majority of people.
B. Same as A2, but I'll add that I slingshot as well and I have never activated a slide mounted safety in practice or even come close to doing so on my Beretta or my S&W 5906.
C. It is in fact bigger than most other 9mms, but that is based in relativity and isn't necessarily a flaw, and most certainly not a flaw in the design.

I've handled a Beretta and I've never accidentally flicked the slide when racking it. Unless the safety switch has been worn out from overuse, I don't see you accidentally flicking it. Maybe if you are in combat and you decided to rack the slide instead of pressing the convenient safety release. And flicking the safety on and off should come second nature to someone that's had enough practice with the gun.

Of that I've no doubt. You're right; my post was meant to be quite tongue-in-cheek. I wasn't trying to bash the 92. I've never fired one, but I know their ubiquity has a reason. Still, it would be nice to not have every film featuring firearms constantly use 92s, Glocks, or Sigs. They're all fine weapons (though I dislike the latter), but I'd personally like to see a main character use something like a Steyr M1A or some other firearm that never gets the spotlight.

Well maybe handguns like that don't get the "spotlight" because they aren't that common/popular in the real world in the first place.

...what AdAstra said. Berettas, Glocks, and SIGs are common in movies because they're also common in real life (although the Beretta isn't as popular with police these days as Hollywood would have us believe). One would expect a detective or agent character in a movie to be using either a Glock or a SIG, whereas nobody in America would expect to see a Steyr M1A (a pistol that was imported to this country only in small #s) being carried by any law enforcement officer.

I think the Saints made the 92's look pretty damn cool!...and they didnt look too big in their hands either. I'll never own a 92 or really want to but they still are a sweet little design and always a blast to play with once in a while...I can see why the military would want them but i wouldnt spend the cash.

Actually, I heard Steyr is going to start importing the M series again

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...d-sa1-pistols/

I don't like slide safeties either, but that's why I liked the Taurus PT92 better than the Beretta (as I've said in a bunch of posts on here). However, I'm not sure if you can really activate it when chambering the gun. In my experience, the slide serrations are long enough and the safety unobtrusive enough that this doesn't happen.

As for the size issue, the 92F is a pretty big gun, but it's not like you can't buy more compact variants (the Centurion, for example).

Interesting. Though I doubt they'll sell many of them here. At this point, it's pretty much impossible to displace Glock from its current share of the market (LE or civilian). Also, I read a review of the M1 (the original, not the M1A) which complained about the grip angle and circumference. I can't comment myself, of course, because I've never seen nor held one.

I have big hands, so the 92s fit my hand pretty nice. But a smaller grip is better

The 92F doesn't really have that big a grip; it's just big length-wise. (When I was an airsofter, my 92F was so large that I couldn't carry it on my waist without the barrel digging into my hip, so I wound up carrying it on my thigh instead. But most law enforcement personnel, for example, don't have that option.)

Even common guns arent seen in movies, look at the XD or M&P, extrememly popular in real life, not so much in movies, then theres the ruger sr9, lcp and lcr, which sell like hotcakes and havent made it to film.

You are confusing popularity with law enforcement versus popularity with "common folk". The guns you've listed may be popular with civilian shooters in the U.S., but how many LE agencies issue them? Last I heard, Glock holds over 60% of the U.S. LE market, SIG-Sauer holds about a third, and everyone else is fighting over the remaining 2-3%.

And in case you've forgotten, Hollywood isn't in the habit of making movies about common folk who own guns; most of the time that you see guns in movies, they're being carried by either LE personnel or bad guys.

What type of holster were you uisng?

Can't remember the brand name anymore, but it was some pretty cheap holster I got from Red Wolf (this was probably about 8 years ago now). I'm not really sure it was the holster, mostly just my physique.

I remember most of my team that had sidearms had drop leg holsters. I had a 1911 type pistol, but I rarely use it. Eventually, I just stopped carrying it because I never get to pull it out and we usually play outdoors.

Ah, forgot to clarify: It wasn't a drop-leg holster, it was a canvas belt holster. The barrel of the Beretta dug into the side of my hip/thigh whenever I crouched or squatted. I later got a thigh holster instead, which was better, but I still got annoyed at the way the gun bounced around so much (because I had very thin legs back then).

Like you, I eventually decided sidearms were unnecessary for skirmishes. I died too quickly, plus not carrying a sidearm meant I could carry more mags for the M16A2.

Last time I heard Glock was at 40 percent or so. But then even civilain firearms should be showing up in movies about civilians. And then you are still more likely to see a thug in a movie pull a beretta than the hi point or lorcin criminals carry. And Average Joe Citizen will pull a Glock 17 from the nightstand instead of a M&P or XD.

This is more or less what I meant. I wouldn't expect LE officers in a crime drama or soldiers/Marines in a war film to carry something that isn't commonly issued, but criminals and civilians are a different story. In Heat, Waingro (sp?) carried two Star Megastars, not at all common (though for good reason). In Ronin, the head IRA guy (whose name escapes me at the moment) carried a P22x Sport, not all that common at the time either and still not really common today. I know that even in the criminal/civilian arena, Glocks would still be far more likely to be used, but I could see the main antagonist and/or his enforcer using something "exotic." Gold-plated 1911s and Strayer-Voigt Infinity customs aren't exactly common either but still feature in a number of television shows/films.

And as per a previous poster's comment, it would be nice if Steyr did start exporting the M1A series again. I did have an opportunity to fire one at my local range, and I loved it.

Wrong. Big time. Wikipedia says 65% (and yes, I know it's Wikipedia, but the article cites Gun Digest's Glock issue, which I used to own, and I know it has the same number).

You're again thinking too much of the common type of criminal (lowlife gangbangers and drug dealers), as opposed to the Hollywood criminals. Criminals in Hollywood are always rich, hip, and have expensive tastes. That's why you see them carrying stuff like nickel-plated Jericho 941s (which seems to be a very common pistol for the main bad guy in lots of movies lately).

I read somewhere that the 65% figure was based on number of guns bought, which isn't necessarily number of guns actually carried by LEOs, but I can believe the figure either way. I certainly see police and hear about them with Glock 22s enough to believe so.

I could afford 2 primaries so I can switch around. Running around with an M4 got boring, so I had a HK51. It was built from a fictional Airsoft G3 called the SAS. I gave it a solid stock to store a large battery with a vertical grip and red dot sight. Had a longer inner barrel, so I attached a suppressor to make it look cooler.

I also had a M14 on an EBR chasis. I only had that for a few months before selling it. That thing's heavy.

Its funny that every bad guy in burn notice carries a jericho.

The bad guys/average citizens thing is more for shows like CSI, ncis, etc, where everybody has cliche guns nothing unique.

I also had a TM MP5 (my first AEG ever), which I used pretty frequently. The M16A2 was my favorite, though.