I don't think the series is devolving, but more or less changing to fit everything the fans want. I think the creators are listening to the fans a bit too much and trying to please everyone. Adding so many new guns and putting too much of a back story to make this seem all too dramatic

What I don't get is you unlock all kinds of new guns and perks but after a while they're not even all that good. The only high-level gun i use is the deegle. My classes for primaries are an m16, ak47, aks74u , rpd and m40, although im level 55 i use a lot of low level guns. the perks get lame too, i mean, seriously, eavesdrop? How is that even remotely useful?

You mean the MP44?

Anyway, the Desert Eagle was made into this overpowered hand cannon. In MW2, there's new perks and a ton more guns

More like, you get last stand, 3x grenades, all the good ones early. Later on, its one where you can hear enemy radio (my team annoys the hell out of me, i couldnt stand the others) and one where they can't hear your footsteps. The guns are balanced to the point that new ones aren't worth it. A g36c has nothing over an m4, the barett .50 cal never gets used since they made it inaccurate , if i snipe (which i never do) i use an m40.

I once pwned this one M60-armed noob in close quarters with an M40A3 with a single blind shot that hit him (or her, I don't know) in the head. It was hilarious. He hunted me mercilessly for the rest of that match. :D

I love when people try to go close quarters with m40s and acogs and i just wreck them....sorry, i hate snipers. I also love using my iron sighted m16a2 (no rails, carry handle, its an a2) to hit them across the map while they try to turn the bolt.

I believe they call a sniper kill without sighting in gaming is called a no scope. Usually it happens out of dumb luck. I have never seen anyone in COD4 used a sniper rifle without using the scope as well. It is nearly impossible to hit anyone otherwise.

I prefer to snipe with an M21. Not as accurate as an M40 but I like it.

I don't snipe, just not my style. I can make long range shots just fine, while still actually playing the game:p

I don't know if you guys frequent the Xbox forums or not, but a list of all the weapons has been released, via the leaked copies of the game. The strange thing is that some guns that are clearly in the released videos, specifically the G3, 1911, and the Dragunov are nowhere to be seen. So we'll have to see what that's about.

Who bets there will be some controversy before release, like with GTA games? Seeing theres alevel where you massacre civilians?

What level?

Also, Infinity Ward removed dedicated servers and matchmaking from the PC version. It will be just like the console version.

^What he said. :eek:

Fallout 3 didn't get controversy about killing people when you can clearly go into a town, even a friendly town and just start shooting and killing everyone in sight except for children

The level is "no russian." You paly as a deep cover CIA agent who has to slaughter the russian airport to maintain cover.

BTW, any gns in leaked lists that aren't already on main site?

That sounds intersting. And original. I would play it.

Really? That pretty hardcore. But if you can randomly shoot people in GTA games for years, this really wouldnt phase ppl

Its just something you don't expect in COD. The levels gameplay was leaked, its on youtube still I think.

Got a link to it?

youtube removed for a copyright, but heres an article where second video shows massacre, another language, but the description is on the modern warfare 2 wiki, at the end makarov says "heres your message" meaning he knew all along, and you pretty much massacred civilians for nothing...

http://rawstory.com/2009/10/game-let...cre-civilians/

Well, there shtis, and not to mention DC utterly destroyed......BTW, one more week :)

Fallout 3 already has shown us a ruined DC, so that's not as shocking. But this vid is pretty hardcore with how they animated the running and the screaming in the background. Pretty intense.

Video games have always been trying to push the envelope. Some people don't like how violent it is, and they are entitled to their opinion. We have to remember that this and any other simulations of shooting innocents, is just a game. It's not real, the people who are dying in it aren't real, nothing is. People who says video games are the cause of mass killings, shootouts and other like are just trying to find something to blame.

I'm sure this game will be awesome, and like any war game, it will draw attention from all crowds. People specifically look for particular things to bitch about in any game. There will always be critics.

But in GTA, the characters you play as aren't exactly the best of the good guys. Tommy Vercetti, for example, was a psychopath, plain and simple.

I guess so. In this mission in MW2, we take control of a deep undercover CIA agent who is pretty much forced to go along with the massacre, participate to keep his cover.

The MW2 wiki has a list of at what levels you unlock some guns at, funny the AK-47 is at last possible level, and the m9 is later on and the usp starting.

less than a week left. Exciting isn't it?

Its gonna be a long week, oh well, tuesday when class gets out im speeding over to gamestop

If I can, I'm doing the midnight thing.

not worth it for me, bigger line, and i have school in the morning, i dont think professors will like me skipping because i played all night.

Is that online or offline?

Well online of course. If you've played Call of Duty 4, or World at War, then you'd know that in multiplayer, you have to play to level up a rank and with each passing rank, you unlock perks and new guns.

Offline is the single player game

Too bad last stand is unlocked at level 46, its my favorite perk.

Whats everyone think of dual wielding, well, all smgs and handguns, ive seen deegles, sawn off double barrels, mp5ks and p90s....

never call a Desert Eagle a Deagle. It's a very stupid gamer term.

I on the subject of dual wielding. I don't like it. It seems stupid.

I don't like dual wielding. But all I have to do is not use it, so it doesn't concern me all that much. If some kid in MP kills me with dual Desert Eagles, who cares? I'll just respawn and move on.

I will just waste them with my FAL. It also helps that Infinity Ward gave Dual-weilding a lot of disadvanteges.

Getting so pumped, cant wait to get out of school tomorrow......

I got some morning classes and after that, I am off to gamestop

I'll be playing MW2 shortly after midnight. :cool:

get ready for huge lines then, im definitely not doing the midnight thing. I get outta school at 415, then ill grab it.

Not as stupid as 'naded (killed with a grenade) or noob-tubed (killed with a grenade launcher).

I went to the midnight opening for GTA IV and there weren't all that many people there. I was out by 12:15. But I do live in a fairly small town, though.

Well the noob-tube is a term that came from COD4. It's not popular misuages of a common word like Desert Eagle

I dont really care what anyone calls a desert eagle, its a stupid gun so stupid names are fitting.