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Excalibur 12-21-2009 11:13 PM

During WWII, The Russians employed women in their frontline military. Israel also has women in active combat duty.

MT2008 12-22-2009 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 9815)
During WWII, The Russians employed women in their frontline military. Israel also has women in active combat duty.

Well, yes, but that was because (1.) Stalin was spending men's lives quite rapidly against the Germans, and (2.) they were egalitarian Commies trying to impose social engineering upon the population.

I think the most relevant factor in the debate is whether or not women are up to the task. Individual women might be, but that's probably going to be rare.

Spartan198 12-22-2009 02:26 AM

Not to mention they had the Germans literally beating down their front door, something the US hasn't experienced since the 1800s and likely never will again.

S&Wshooter 12-22-2009 02:48 AM

I remember hearing about the Soviets having whole UNITS of just women snipers

k9870 12-22-2009 03:14 AM

One woman sniper had over 300 confirmed kills.

Spartan198 12-22-2009 08:41 AM

A couple of them did.

Nina Lobkovskaya had 308 kills and Lyudmila Pavlichenko had 309.

S&Wshooter 12-22-2009 03:51 PM

Damn, they blew Carlos Hathcock's number of confirmed kills right out of the water

MT2008 12-22-2009 03:57 PM

Yeah, I've heard about the Soviets' female snipers. I'm just saying that they had particular reasons for putting women in the armed forces.

Also, given the Red Army's reputation for rape in WWII, I can't imagine too many Soviet women were all that excited about serving.

Spartan198 12-22-2009 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 9839)
Damn, they blew Carlos Hathcock's number of confirmed kills right out of the water

Those two aren't even the half of it. Both Ivan Sidorenko and Simo Hayha are credited with over 500 kills (though neither are women).

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Originally Posted by MT2008 (Post 9841)
Also, given the Red Army's reputation for rape in WWII, I can't imagine too many Soviet women were all that excited about serving.

True, but I can't see a German-controlled Russia being any more appealing.

AdAstra2009 12-22-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MT2008 (Post 9809)
Then how do you explain the Iraqi soldiers in the Gulf War surrendering to newscrews, many of which had female reporters? :D

Poor morale/no will to fight

And by Islamists, I am referring to Taliban fighters/Insurgents


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