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MT2008 06-13-2009 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunmaster45 (Post 3740)
The foregrip won't snag on clothing when you are hiding it in a jacket, I suppose.

True, but the sights will. That's why H&K came out with the MP5KA1 and KA5 - those versions have no sights so that they won't snag on the clothes of body guards who carry them. The ones in "Taken" are regular MP5Ks with sights.

BTW, I can't remember, but I think the KA1 is the version of the MP5K that the Secret Service uses, even though movies always depict Secret Service agents carrying regular MP5Ks.

Gunmaster45 06-13-2009 08:39 PM

So an MP5KA1 with the foregrip removed would be pretty handy wouldn't it? Unless you needed to aim...

MT2008 06-13-2009 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunmaster45 (Post 3798)
So an MP5KA1 with the foregrip removed would be pretty handy wouldn't it? Unless you needed to aim...

...in which case, an MP5K is the last gun in the world you should want.

Zombees 06-14-2009 06:35 AM

Call me crazy, but if you were carrying a compact SMG in a firefight, would you really want to aim it? Or just point and spray? I thought that's what SMGs were designed for.

Gunmaster45 06-14-2009 10:12 PM

No, you never want to do that, only in movies does that work. Guns with full auto capabilities run out of ammo way faster than in movies (as in an MP5K's case, with a 30 round magazine, that sucker's empty in ~2 seconds). You want to make every round count and if you just "sprayed-and-prayed", you'd end up dead.

MT2008 06-14-2009 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Zombees (Post 3823)
Call me crazy, but if you were carrying a compact SMG in a firefight, would you really want to aim it? Or just point and spray? I thought that's what SMGs were designed for.

No, machine pistols (as opposed to full-size SMGs) were designed to be concealed and easily carried by body guards and aircraft crewmen. That they are almost always very difficult to control is a mostly unintended consequence of their size, but the designers don't sit down and think consciously, "OK, let's build a gun that is meant to be fired in 'spray-n-pray' mode."

Zombees 06-15-2009 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MT2008 (Post 3841)
No, machine pistols (as opposed to full-size SMGs) were designed to be concealed and easily carried by body guards and aircraft crewmen. That they are almost always very difficult to control is a mostly unintended consequence of their size, but the designers don't sit down and think consciously, "OK, let's build a gun that is meant to be fired in 'spray-n-pray' mode."

Very good, I shut up now.


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