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Evil Tim 07-10-2013 06:58 PM

Yeah, and I doubt they'd let an actor do that anyway.

funkychinaman 07-10-2013 08:28 PM

I'm not really sure what context of this image is, but if it's for Lock 'n Load, then I suppose it'd be eligible.

Then again, for Mail Call and Lock 'n Load, it just says "Various weapons."

commando552 07-10-2013 11:41 PM

I'm trying to think now, has there ever actually be an internal shot of an AC-130 in TV or Film? Just wondering, as I remember when one day I was trying to work out what weapons an an AC-130 are actually aimable and crew operated I had a real hard time trying to find shots of exactly how the weapons are mounted.

funkychinaman 07-11-2013 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by commando552 (Post 39357)
I'm trying to think now, has there ever actually be an internal shot of an AC-130 in TV or Film? Just wondering, as I remember when one day I was trying to work out what weapons an an AC-130 are actually aimable and crew operated I had a real hard time trying to find shots of exactly how the weapons are mounted.

I can't recall any off-hand, at least none that aren't documentaries. The first Transformers had a gunship scene, but I don't know if we ever saw the inside of the plane.

If I recall, the crewmen actually riding with the weapons only load them (at least the Bofors gun and the howitzer, I imagine they'd just have a drums for the miniguns.) Someone in the cockpit aims the weapons, and the pilot pulls the trigger.

commando552 07-11-2013 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 39359)
I can't recall any off-hand, at least none that aren't documentaries. The first Transformers had a gunship scene, but I don't know if we ever saw the inside of the plane.

If I recall, the crewmen actually riding with the weapons only load them (at least the Bofors gun and the howitzer, I imagine they'd just have a drums for the miniguns.) Someone in the cockpit aims the weapons, and the pilot pulls the trigger.

That's correct, it is the guy at a sensor station who actually aims and fires the guns. However if one did ever turn up in a film where we saw people operating the weapons, I would probably say that the only ones who would get the credit for it would be the people loading the guns not the person who actually aims them, as in real terms he has nothing to do with the weapons. Also, only the 25mm Equalizers are trainable from the sensor station, earlier variants with the twin 20mm Vulcans had them fixed and were aimed by manoeuvring the plane

funkychinaman 07-11-2013 07:13 PM

Anyway, I was doing research for this, and I ran across a making-of for Top Gun which explained the cockpit scenes, and an article on Sky Fighters which did the same. It's interesting to see how two films, made twenty years apart, used many similar techniques, but with slight differences.

The Wierd It 07-12-2013 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 39359)
The first Transformers had a gunship scene, but I don't know if we ever saw the inside of the plane.

Nope, we only see the Spooky from the outside as it rains fire on the giant robot scorpion.


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