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ersoz 02-02-2011 03:39 AM

Thank you for the info Nyles.
This one was the only Bergmann in the museum. Another interesting fact is that The Bergmann was manufactured in 1896 just like the Mauser. Perhaps the Mauser was more reliable than the Bergmann and it became the prefered sidearm of mostly German and Ottoman officers.

Last pic for now.. More to come soon...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y45...s/IMG_0598.jpg

Nyles 02-02-2011 05:46 AM

Well, I think the main factor was power. The biggest round the Bergmann was available in was the 6.5mm Bergmann, which pushed a 76 grain bullet at 710 FPS. 7.63mm Mauser pushes an 85 grain at 1410 FPS.

ManiacallyChallenged 02-02-2011 02:43 PM

Those are some excellent pictures, and stuff I've never seen before (Bergman and Mauser notwithstanding).

Thanks for taking these and putting them up.

ersoz 02-02-2011 03:54 PM

You are welcome.

Here's a picture of the museum itself. Harbiye Askeri Muzesi.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y45...urk/museum.jpg

Building used to be a military school and it still belongs to the Turkish armed forces. It is also being operated by TAF. Awful, useless website. I won't bother sharing the link here.
Note the barrel of the mighty "rail gun" at the bottom. I have some pics of it.

First floor is devoted to pre WW1 era. And that goes all the way back to the 10th century if I'm not mistaken. And no, not only firearms but all sorts of weapons are on display. Took me 2 visits to cover most of the first floor. I'm hoping to cover the rest of the museum in the following weeks.
Since this is a firearm forum I won't be bothering you folks with pictures of blades and such.

Some revolvers:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y45...s/IMG_0661.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y45...s/IMG_0662.jpg

This collection of revolvers belonged to some militia leader from early 20th century and apparently he carried all or most of them on his person. ( I might be wrong)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y45...s/IMG_0668.jpg

k9870 02-02-2011 04:14 PM

The older guns were very nice looking.

ersoz 02-02-2011 08:12 PM

Revolvers, continued:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y45...s/IMG_0660.jpg

Too fancy:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y45...s/IMG_0615.jpg

This one would make a nice Christmas present:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y45...s/IMG_0611.jpg

Can't tell if these are Webley's

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y45...s/IMG_0597.jpg

S&Wshooter 02-02-2011 09:40 PM

ersoz wins the internet

ersoz 02-02-2011 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 25099)
ersoz wins the internet

Internet is not always reliable IMO. Sometimes you just gotta go there to see them.
For me going to a museum to see all these guns was like going to the theater to see a decent movie. It felt great.
I used to live in So Cal near Los Angeles. Traveled through US couple times. And my only regret has been never having the chance to visit the Smithsonian.
Someday perhaps.

More revolvers?
Why not:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y45...s/IMG_0673.jpg
WEBLEY - GREEN?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y45...s/IMG_0622.jpg

Some Belgian revolvers

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y45...s/IMG_0596.jpg

k9870 02-02-2011 10:52 PM

Those are some tall looking hammers.

Markost 02-03-2011 02:10 AM

Loved this one.


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