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Originally Posted by AdAstra2009 (Post 20680)

Official ATF list of most common guns used in crime.

1. Smith and Wesson .38 revolver
2. Ruger 9 mm semiautomatic
3. Lorcin Engineering .380 semiautomatic
4. Raven Arms .25 semiautomatic
5. Mossberg 12 gauge shotgun
6. Smith and Wesson 9mm semiautomatic
7. Smith and Wesson .357 revolver
8. Bryco Arms 9mm semiautomatic
9. Bryco Arms .380 semiautomatic
10. Davis Industries .380 semiautomatic

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...#ixzz11jGvQadf

That's from 2002, I'm sure the Raven isn't on that list anymore.

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Originally Posted by AdAstra2009 (Post 20486)

Basketweave holsters used by SFPD.

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news...ies.php?page=2

Actually I wrote that!!!! Since I've worked on films shot in San Francisco and actors dressed like cops, I tend to talk to and take note of the real SF cops who are there on set. During filming of one of Monk's pickup shots (some days they did go to San Francisco for establishing shots)(edit:I was visiting the set because my buddy was playing a SF cop), I spoke to a real SF cop on duty. That was when he mentioned the difference between the basketweave holsters they used for the 'fake cops' on the show, and the real holsters they used on the force. The real ones (I can't remember the exact make and model) had a suspension arm which held the holster out and away from the body, so the gun nor holster never really touched your hip. It was also a really EXPENSIVE holster to use.

I don't like that blog because he kinda misquoted me (or else I did not write my thoughts clearly). I never said that SFPD did NOT use basketweave. I said that the style of holster was not one used by SFPD.

BTW, that was the show (Monk) where I learned that SFPD ditched the Beretta 92FS, went to the S&W M&P for six months, ditched that and now the department standard is the SIG-Sauer P226 Stainless. Good choice in my book :)

What was wrong with the S&W M&P pistols?

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Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008 (Post 20697)

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BTW, that was the show (Monk) where I learned that SFPD ditched the Beretta 92FS, went to the S&W M&P for six months, ditched that and now the department standard is the SIG-Sauer P226 Stainless. Good choice in my book :)

Any particular reason for the Stainless model? For some reason I'd think that a police department would have a no frills attitude on their firearms and would select a blued model.

Six months is a really short time. That must have been expensive.

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Originally Posted by AdAstra2009 (Post 20699)

Any particular reason for the Stainless model? For some reason I'd think that a police department would have a no frills attitude on their firearms and would select a blued model.

Doh! The SIG-Sauer P226 Stainless IS not a SS finish. The gun is built out of stainless material that has a coated finish on it (see image of the P220R Stainless from "Live Free or Die Hard")
http://www.imfdb.org/images/3/35/SIG...reeDieHard.jpg

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Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008 (Post 20702)

my bad, haha

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Originally Posted by BurtReynoldsMoustache (Post 20700)

Six months is a really short time. That must have been expensive.

Check out this announcement from Los Angeles Sheriffs Dept. Pretty Damning isn't it?

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FROM: XXXX 04/29/09 12:40:15

SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT BROADCASTANNOUNCEMENT TRAINING BUREAU
WEAPONS TRAINING
TO: ALL CONCERNED PERSONNEL

SUBJECT: OFFICER SAFETY ALERT - SMITH & WESSON M&P PISTOLS

RECENT DEVELOPMENTS HAVE FORCED A DEPARTMENTAL RE-EVALUATION OF THE SMITH & WESSON 9MM M&P SEMI-AUTOMATIC PISTOL AS AN AUTHORIZED OPTIONAL HANDGUN FOR SWORN PERSONNEL.

EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, THE SMITH & WESSON 9MM M&P FULL SIZE PISTOL IS NO LONGER AN AUTHORIZED OPTIONAL ON-DUTY PISTOL.

EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, THE SMITH & WESSON 9MM M&P COMPACT PISTOL IS NO LONGER AN AUTHORIZED OPTIONAL OFF-DUTY PISTOL.

SINCE FIRST APPROVAL AS AN OPTIONAL PISTOL ON DECEMBER 10, 2008, THE FULL-SIZED AND/OR COMPACT VERSIONS OF THE 9MM SMITH & WESSON M&P PISTOL HAVE BEEN DEPLOYED BY 49 SWORN PERSONNEL ON AND OFF DUTY. ONE OF THESE PISTOLS WAS DELIVERED NEW WITH AN IMPROPERLY MACHINED BARREL THAT WOULD NOT EJECT SPENT CARTRIDGE CASINGS. ANOTHER OF THESE PISTOLS EXPERIENCED A BARREL FAILURE IN MID-APRIL OF THIS YEAR. AFTER FIRING LESS THAN 10,000 ROUNDS OF TRAINING AMMUNITION. THIS PISTOL BARREL BROKE INTO TWO PIECES JUST AHEAD OF THE FIRING CHAMBER.

ADDITIONALLY, A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF DEPUTY ACADEMY CLASS #XXX RECRUITS WITH ISSUED NEW SMITH & WESSON 9MM M&P FULL-SIZE PISTOLS HAVE EXPERIENCED PHASE-2 PISTOL MALFUNCTIONS, CAUSED BY SPENT CASINGS FAILING TO EXTRACT FROM BARREL CHAMBERS, DURING THE PAST TWO WEEKS OF TRAINING. CLASS #XXX RECRUITS WILL BE ISSUED BERETTA 92FS PISTOLS ON WEDNESDAY APRIL 29, 2009, AND THEIR M&P PISTOLS REMOVED FROM SERVICE.

PERSONNEL SAFETY AND RELIABLE EQUIPMENT REMAIN OUR PRIMARY CONCERNS.

DIRECT ANY QUESTIONS (removed for PERSEC) AT THE B.C. RANGE.

XXXXX X. XXXX, SHERIFF LRR/SNDG

S&W's hurting, that's a given.

i heard of a PD there getting a batch with bad extractors.