Firstly i wasn't trying to "GRANDSTAND", just putting my point of view over to different questions! Just because a member has the right to ask others to pitch in, doesn't mean they are intent on creating weak pages or intent on starting something for the sake of it. I really don't see where i said i wanted everyone in the world to contribute, if you read my post clearly i said i thought that a page would be better if it was a collaboration and may be it will still include incorrections. The only diatribe ive read was in the previous post.